Longgone Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Toddwert said: i'd voice my concerns but i dont want to be lump with that guy Prudent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Toddwert said: i'd voice my concerns but i dont want to be lump with that guy There are reasons for concern. However, they just did a major shakeup of the front office. It's hard to be patient given the last several years, but I think it's fair to give them some time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: There are reasons for concern. However, they just did a major shakeup of the front office. It's hard to be patient given the last several years, but I think it's fair to give them some time. true.... I just dont buy that these guys are going to be better then last year for no real reason why... its way easier to be bad and struggle then to be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Toddwert said: i'd voice my concerns but i dont want to be lump with that guy 8 1/2 years from now, you'll be signing book deals on the basis of "being the man who knew the man" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Toddwert said: true.... I just dont buy that these guys are going to be better then last year for no real reason why... You don't need to, there's just no reason to assume the worst at this early point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Longgone said: You don't need to, there's just no reason to assume the worst at this early point. im not assume the worst ... you guys are acting like last season didnt happen because we now have a new GM. dont get me confused with the other guy i dont think theres some grand plan by Ilitch to ruin baseball i just think its hard to win and you cant assume players will get better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useful Idiot Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Toddwert said: you guys are acting like last season didnt happen because we now have a new GM. It's part of the "new culture", you're either "in" or you're out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 50 minutes ago, Toddwert said: true.... I just dont buy that these guys are going to be better then last year for no real reason why... its way easier to be bad and struggle then to be good They probably won't be better on the field in 2023. I am looking to see what kinds of smaller moves they make and also looking to see how their injured pitchers progress. I can see them not making big moves this off-season and then going for it next year after they shed Cabera's salary and get more info on their young pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longgone Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Toddwert said: im not assume the worst ... you guys are acting like last season didnt happen because we now have a new GM. dont get me confused with the other guy i dont think theres some grand plan by Ilitch to ruin baseball i just think its hard to win and you cant assume players will get better Oh, last year happened, it was a tragedy of errors and happenstance. All I've been saying is at least give the new guy a chance to get his feet wet. Additionally, some think buying players is the endall, but filling the pipeline and player development is absolutely the essence of a successful franchise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Toddwert said: im not assume the worst ... you guys are acting like last season didnt happen because we now have a new GM. dont get me confused with the other guy i dont think theres some grand plan by Ilitch to ruin baseball i just think its hard to win and you cant assume players will get better But I also think you can’t assume some of what we saw repeats itself. Granted, Cabrera is in decline, so I wouldn’t expect much out of him. But I think Baez, Meadows, and Schoop underperformed so much that there’s reason to expect a recovery to closer to career norms (I’d add Candelario to that, but he’s gone). I also think we’ve seen the absolute worst of Torkelson. So right there, that’s 4 everyday players that we should reasonably expect better things out of in 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: You aren’t useful. And attempts at dialogue are idiotic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Apparently, Justyn-Henry Malloy goes by the name of J-Hen. So, it's J-Hen the MudHen. I prefer Hank Malloy. That's the name of a hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 22 minutes ago, casimir said: But I also think you can’t assume some of what we saw repeats itself. Granted, Cabrera is in decline, so I wouldn’t expect much out of him. But I think Baez, Meadows, and Schoop underperformed so much that there’s reason to expect a recovery to closer to career norms (I’d add Candelario to that, but he’s gone). I also think we’ve seen the absolute worst of Torkelson. So right there, that’s 4 everyday players that we should reasonably expect better things out of in 2023. Replace Schoop please. I think he is effectively done. And insert Greene as I think he makes huge strides in 2023 which will replace anything Schoop could ever dream of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Good interview with Malloy by FanGraphs. If this guy is any good, he is going to be a big fan favorite. He reminds me a little of Curtis Granderson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 OK let's see some photos of his mom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Mason Englert's family. His mom is on the left. Very decent looking family. This aint the Adducis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAbbott Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: I hope Harris is shopping Lange. Makes sense to move him now if you can get a potential core position player. Agree with this. Given the seeming year to year variability in relievers, trading them forvposition players seems to make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Shop all the relief pitchers. Relievers have a lot more value to a bad team in trades than they have on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyAbbott Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: Shop all the relief pitchers. Relievers have a lot more value to a bad team in trades than they have on the field. This is true. I still think that Soto will be gone before the ASB. I of the opinion generally that there is enough assets in the organization to get marginal improvement yet this off season, and the reliever corp is where this can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Cowan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, Tiger337 said: Mason Englert's family. His mom is on the left. Very decent looking family. This aint the Adducis. Oh his mom is fine. I don't like that 1980's hockey mullet though, that's got to go, I don't want to see that under the Olde English D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 6 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: Oh his mom is fine. I don't like that 1980's hockey mullet though, that's got to go, I don't want to see that under the Olde English D. [Mattingly, get rid of those sideburns] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 12 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: Replace Schoop please. I think he is effectively done. And insert Greene as I think he makes huge strides in 2023 which will replace anything Schoop could ever dream of... I'd have been fine with keeping Candelario and releasing Schoop. I would assume some improvement for Greene, but given his youth and generally positive showing in his rookie stint, I'm not sure how much improvement there will be in 2023. He just turned 22. He can be a regular but still have some learning to do, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I think it was when they had one of those "Wives doing things for charity" things that they showed Nick's mom. I thought "Man, she's cute for an older broad" then it hit me.... Nick was born in 1992. Nick could be my son, technically. I was 18/19, it could happen. I have friends with kids that age. Nick's mom is my generation. You are old too dumb ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 8 hours ago, Jim Cowan said: Oh his mom is fine. I don't like that 1980's hockey mullet though, that's got to go, I don't want to see that under the Olde English D. Respectfully disagree, that mullet looks to have good flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 The mullet is OK if he's going to be a reliever. Otherwise, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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