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2022-23 Detroit Tigers Offseason Thread


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So is nothing really happening? It’s so bad we’re talking about McCann? Following this team is like watching grass grow. In the winter. Not a hot stove, but a cold stove? The Lions are more interesting than the Tigers? My iPhone is so bored with things that when I tried to tap in the address to this site it automatically tried to send me the Motownsports. My damn phone even forgot to care. I’ve been reduced watching the Premier League, which was sadly on hiatus due to the World Cup, but which at least has the attraction of only taking two hours instead of four. I haven’t been this apathetic in years. I’m watching YouTube videos of people walking in the rain in Japan because it’s more interesting. 

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1 minute ago, IdahoBert said:

It’s too bad MLB doesn’t have relegation. If the Tigers were relegated to the Mexican League they might even make it into the playoffs. 

I was just talking about that with my step dad hes from wales ...... he asked what incentive  do they have to put a good team on the field

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53 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

It’s too bad MLB doesn’t have relegation. If the Tigers were relegated to the Mexican League they might even make it into the playoffs. 

I would love to see relegation in American professional sports, but I know there is no chance of that ever happening.  The solution will be add more and more teams to the playoffs.  

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16 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I would love to see relegation in American professional sports, but I know there is no chance of that ever happening.  The solution will be add more and more teams to the playoffs.  

Do you follow European sports? You dont want that. It may sound good, but it isn't, in practice.

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They have relegation now in UCI world cycling. Two of the biggest teams Lotto Soudal and Israel Premier Tech were relegated, and it created great consternation, but other teams that are not automatically invited to the biggest races now will be. The big issue is the way points are allocated which many find contrived and irrational. But anyway, relegation is never pretty.  

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9 minutes ago, IdahoBert said:

They have relegation now in UCI world cycling. Two of the biggest teams Lotto Soudal and Israel Premier Tech were relegated, and it created great consternation, but other teams that are not automatically invited to the biggest races now will be. The big issue is the way points are allocated which many find contrived and irrational. But anyway, relegation is never pretty.  

Yes Woodsy doesn't necessarily get into all the events he wants now, with Israel Premier Tech having been relegated.

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50 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

I would love to see relegation in American professional sports, but I know there is no chance of that ever happening.  The solution will be add more and more teams to the playoffs.  

You would think these paragons of capitalism would institute that in their sports here rather than socialism where everybody makes a profit if they want and there’s no incentive to pull up by your bootstraps.  
 

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4 minutes ago, oblong said:

You would think these paragons of capitalism would institute that in their sports here rather than socialism where everybody makes a profit if they want and there’s no incentive to pull up by your bootstraps.  
 

Leagues; the NFL, MLB, NBA, are single entities competing for the entertainment dollar. Teams are franchises of such entities. The overall health of the entity is dependent on each team having similar opportunity to be competitive, not a system like relegation, where there are a few perennial haves, and a lot of struggling have nots with basically no chance.

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30 minutes ago, Longgone said:

Leagues; the NFL, MLB, NBA, are single entities competing for the entertainment dollar. Teams are franchises of such entities. The overall health of the entity is dependent on each team having similar opportunity to be competitive, not a system like relegation, where there are a few perennial haves, and a lot of struggling have nots with basically no chance.

Relegation is to sports what term limits are to politics: they sound great and hit the right populist notes, but are pretty terrible in actual practice.

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I think that relegation works in English football because there are 92 clubs independent of each other in the first 4 levels, and literally thousands of clubs at levels 5 and below.  Theoretically they could all advance to the premiership.  There is not anything in North American pro sports that is analogous to that.

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2 hours ago, Longgone said:

Leagues; the NFL, MLB, NBA, are single entities competing for the entertainment dollar. Teams are franchises of such entities. The overall health of the entity is dependent on each team having similar opportunity to be competitive, not a system like relegation, where there are a few perennial haves, and a lot of struggling have nots with basically no chance.

I know how it works. I’m just taking a shot at a group that loves to cry poor come cba time.  

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46 minutes ago, SoCalTiger said:

Wow Mets not shy. Time to mine their third stackers in the minors. 

As was mentioned above, this is where Harris might take some risk (in the form of excess Met salary) along with some prospects.  McCann would be one piece that the Tigers have a roster opening for.  Looking over the rest of the Met 40, they seem to be heavy in pitchers. 

But one other interesting salary that might be of interest is RHH OF/1B Mark Canha ($11.5M in 2023 with a $11.5M team option or $2M buyout for 2024).  Moving Canha could be helpful to both clubs.

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8 hours ago, Longgone said:

Leagues; the NFL, MLB, NBA, are single entities competing for the entertainment dollar. Teams are franchises of such entities. The overall health of the entity is dependent on each team having similar opportunity to be competitive, not a system like relegation, where there are a few perennial haves, and a lot of struggling have nots with basically no chance.

It sounds like NCAA football.  

It sounds like a problem which is caused by something other than relegation.  

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I don’t have anything against the players  making a lot of money but it seems insane and all the money that’s floating around just makes it feel kind of like the end times and that this whole society needs to be sacked and destroyed by the Goths or Genghis Khan or Pol Pot. Billionaires are seeking to own the other planets of the solar system. It’s getting harder and harder to care about all this stuff. It’s like I’d rather just see us tear down all the idols, melt the gold down and give the money away and become hobbits or something. 

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