2022-23 Detroit Tigers Offseason Thread

[casimir]

6 hours ago, JackPine said:

In the end, he beat the tigers offer and total value of lindor's contract

The maths of future cash flows and present values might square the deals up closer than they look at face value.  Although I guess neither one of them are cutting out coupons from the Sunday paper.

[casimir]

7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said:

should be fun to see a guy turning the DP with one hand holding onto his walker.

Should be fun at the next CBA and listening to owners cry and complain about some of these long term deals that they cannot resist offering.

[mtutiger]

13 years... wow.

[Jim Cowan]

AAV of $26.9 million looks fair but man are they going to hate that contract for the last half of it.  If I'm a player I will take Lindor's contract over that one every time.  He collects all his money by the time he is 37.  As an owner I would prefer it too.

 

[buddha]

but, but, but....trash cans!

[chasfh]

Sure is a lot better than 3/87.

[chasfh]

Dansby Swanson has options now.

[mtutiger]

5 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

AAV of $26.9 million looks fair but man are they going to hate that contract for the last half of it.  If I'm a player I will take Lindor's contract over that one every time.  He collects all his money by the time he is 37.  As an owner I would prefer it too.

 

TBF, from Correa's end, he did hog out $35 million or so last year with the Twins, on top of this deal. So he's doing just fine lol

[Jim Cowan]

3 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Sure is a lot better than 3/87.

LOL!!  Not quite 10/375 though is it?  

[Jim Cowan]

1 minute ago, mtutiger said:

TBF, from Correa's end, he did hog out $35 million or so last year with the Twins, on top of this deal. So he's doing just fine lol

Would he still turn down 2/70 from the Twins?

[Jim Cowan]

The Giants added 3 years onto 10/270.

[chasfh]

2 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

LOL!!  Not quite 10/375 though is it?  

Not quite, but not quite way, way off. 

[chasfh]

I think there’s a chance that sometime in the 2030s, whoever has his contract restructures the last few years of his contract a la Bobby Bonilla and sends him on his way, maybe with the money the Giants give them to take him off their hands in the late 2020s.

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

Would he still turn down 2/70 from the Twins?

He would have this year lol 

[Jim Cowan]

1 minute ago, chasfh said:

Not quite, but not quite way, way off. 

What?  AAV too high by over $10 million is not way way off?

[mtutiger]

The way this offseason is going, it might not be just ERod opting out... lol

[casimir]

26 minutes ago, chasfh said:

Dansby Swanson has options now.

I suspect an overpay for him.

[casimir]

9 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

The way this offseason is going, it might not be just ERod opting out... lol

I'm considering opting out.

[chasfh]

The contract also maintains 4 as a top-end threshold that only one guy has blasted through so far for at least. If Correa would have gone through the barrier it would have emboldened other players/agents to insist on that and made it somewhat harder for teams to resist it. Ohtani has a shot at it next year, although I think Soto might be the best bet at this point to be the next guy to go through it, in 2025.

[chasfh]

21 minutes ago, Jim Cowan said:

What?  AAV too high by over $10 million is not way way off?

I think it could be argued that 13/350 is way off 10/375, but it’s way, way off 3/87. Maybe even way, way, way off. Contracts are more than just their AAV.

[chasfh]

19 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

The way this offseason is going, it might not be just ERod opting out... lol

The main competition with Javy for shortstop jobs next winter are Tim Anderson and IKF. As long as Javy doesn’t have the worst year among the three of them, he’s probably gone.

[Tenacious D]

This is the Giants pivot from losing out on Judge.  Glad it wasn’t us taking on a 13-year contract.  

[chasfh]

1 minute ago, Tenacious D said:

This is the Giants pivot from losing out on Judge.  Glad it wasn’t us taking on a 13-year contract.  

The power of star power.

[romad1]

Strategic retreats are boring for fans.  But man this board does not lack for off-season activity.  

[Tenacious D]

4 minutes ago, chasfh said:

The main competition with Javy for shortstop jobs next winter are Tim Anderson and IKF. As long as Javy doesn’t have the worst year among the three of them, he’s probably gone.