Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 But the Lions have a QB who rarely misses time so even if he finds a late round gem, that QB isn't going to play. Drafting a LB in the 6th round means there are opportunities to play at the very least on special teams. If you are worried about Goff being injured, sign a veteran like Andy Dalton. I suspect the draft a developmental QB to be backup camp really wants to justify drafting a Goff replacement. Backup QB is the lowest need for this team other than punter. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Same Old Lions still goes back and forth about the value of Matt Stafford. Brand New Lions only cares about Matt Stafford as a guy that got us the #6 pick. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 I definitely want them to upgrade their backup qb position one way or another. I don't like the thought of being one Goff injury away from being screwed. I atleast want somebody that can help us tread water for a month or 6 weeks if Goff has that type of injury. If that guy can lead us to a 2-4 record vs. 0-6 that could be the difference between winning the division or making the playoffs and not. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Of course. The only value Stafford could have provided to the Lions was a higher draft pick and he did his part by having a 3-6 record and throwing more INTs in 9 games than Goff did the entire season. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 5 hours ago, NYLion said: The Lions have their starter. Goff has proven over the last season and a half (ever since Lynn was turfed) that he's still a legit starting QB in this league. If you want to draft a developmental QB that could supplant him in 3-4 years perhaps then take one in the later rounds but Goff is their guy for the foreseeable future. How could he not be? Not what I said, I said they need a backup; It's one of their top needs, and Holmes alluded to it early and often during his year end presser. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: Same Old Lions still goes back and forth about the value of Matt Stafford. Brand New Lions only cares about Matt Stafford as a guy that got us the #6 pick. And Goff, Melifonwu, and Jameson Williams. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Cruzer1 said: Not what I said, I said they need a backup; It's one of their top needs, and Holmes alluded to it early and often during his year end presser. Fine, then sign a veteran. You said to draft Richardson which would require the Lions to draft him in the 1st round. You don't draft a backup QB in the first round. You draft your future QB in the 1st round which means you don't think Goff is the future QB. Goff didn't miss a single snap last year. He has only missed three games due to injury the past six years. Backup QB is in no way one of their top needs. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Motown Bombers said: Fine, then sign a veteran. You said to draft Richardson which would require the Lions to draft him in the 1st round. You don't draft a backup QB in the first round. You draft your future QB in the 1st round which means you don't think Goff is the future QB. Goff didn't miss a single snap last year. He has only missed three games due to injury the past six years. Backup QB is in no way one of their top needs. I think Richardson is uber-talented, and I prefer him. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: I think Richardson is uber-talented, and I prefer him. That's fine. You want to replace Goff with Riochardson but don't disguise it as the Lions need a backup QB. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said: That's fine. You want to replace Goff with Riochardson but don't disguise it as the Lions need a backup QB. I didn't say that. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Cruzer1 said: I didn't say that. Twisting my words. Bastards. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 On 1/17/2023 at 10:50 AM, Cruzer1 said: At the very least, the Lions have a crying need for a backup. They have scouted Florida heavily all year. IMO, Richardson would be a perfect type to draft this year. He's the most talented QB in this draft. 15 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: Not what I said, I said they need a backup; It's one of their top needs, and Holmes alluded to it early and often during his year end presser. Just now, Cruzer1 said: I didn't say that. Sure seems like you are. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Sure seems like you are. Bullshit, you said that I had said that I wanted to replace Goff with Richardson, and that is BS! Thanks, I'm going to ignore you from now on. You're not worthy. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Just now, Cruzer1 said: Bullshit, you said that I had said that I wanted to replace Goff with Richardson, and that is BS! Thanks, I'm going to ignore you from now on. You're not worthy. So you want to draft a backup QB with the 6th overall pick? Richardson is going in the 1st round. You don't draft backups in the 1st round. Oh well guess I'll never know since you took your ball and went home. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Brand New Lions Same Old MotownForums 🤪 1 1 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 The Lions top need, who at one point had a historically bad defense, is a position that played 9 snaps last year and didn't attempt a single pass. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Interesting take on the QB’s and a very similar discussion that was going on here about Bijan. A deep CB draft is also nice. We need a few new ones. Quote
NYLion Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: Not what I said, I said they need a backup; It's one of their top needs, and Holmes alluded to it early and often during his year end presser. When you're using significant draft capital to draft a QB, you're drafting him to be a starter sooner than later. Otherwise, what's the point? We see how well that's worked out for Green Bay and yes, I'm aware that Goff isn't Rodgers but that's besides the point. Hasn't worked for the Niners thus far. You say that backup QB is one of their biggest needs. Well, I disagree. I think backup QB is largely irrelevant in the NFL. Any starter goes down for a significant period of time and it's curtains for just about everybody except for a team like San Francisco that depends on their QB arguably less than any other team in the league. Oh and btw, their current QB was drafted late. Furthermore, Richardson isn't winning games for the Lions next season most likely so he doesn't fill an immediate need either. He's being drafted as a Goff replacement if he's taken high in the draft. Edited January 18, 2023 by NYLion Quote
Cruzer1 Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, NYLion said: When you're using significant draft capital to draft a QB, you're drafting him to be a starter sooner than later. Otherwise, what's the point? We see how well that's worked out for Green Bay and yes, I'm aware that Goff isn't Rodgers but that's besides the point. Hasn't worked for the Niners thus far. You say that backup QB is one of their biggest needs. Well, I disagree. I think backup QB is largely irrelevant in the NFL. Any starter goes down for a significant period of time and it's curtains for just about everybody except for a team like San Francisco that depends on their QB arguably less than any other team in the league. Oh and btw, their current QB was drafted late. Furthermore, Richardson isn't winning games for the Lions next season most likely so he doesn't fill an immediate need either. He's being drafted as a Goff replacement if he's taken high in the draft. Aaron Rodgers was a backup for 4 years. 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Rodgers was backup for 3 years but he was drafted for the purposes of replacing Favre but you don't want to replace Goff. We need Richardson for those all important kneel downs and handoffs in blowouts. Quote
djhutch Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, Cruzer1 said: Aaron Rodgers was a backup for 4 years. That's true, but the Packers were a perennial playoff team when they drafted him. The Lions are trending upward, but I think have more pressing needs than to take him that early. If he slides, that's another story. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 This whole need for a backup QB is one of the more bizarre twists of the offseason. The Bengals backup QB is Brandon Allen. A 30 year old who was drafted by Jacksonville in the 6th round and is on his 3rd team. Joe Burrow has had serious injury in his career. He's not even as durable as Goff. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, djhutch said: That's true, but the Packers were a perennial playoff team when they drafted him. The Lions are trending upward, but I think have more pressing needs than to take him that early. If he slides, that's another story. A lot of people had Rodgers as the best player in the draft and he slid to 24. The Packers also had Favre who was very wishy washy and getting up in age. Favre was entering his age 36 season. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 10 teams had the same starting QB for every game this season. 8 of them made the playoffs. Any guesses on the 2 that missed? 1 Quote
Motown Bombers Posted January 18, 2023 Posted January 18, 2023 Well one is the Lions and I'm guessing the other is the Packers as I don't think Rodgers missed a game. Quote
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