2023 NFL Draft Thread

[Motown Bombers]

I don't understand the obsession with drafting a backup QB so high when the starter missed 5 snaps and that was do to blowout wins. Goff has missed 5 games over 6 years. 3 were due to injury, one to COVID, and one to rest after the Rams clinched the division. I also think one of the three games he missed due to injury was just McVay benching him. There's no need to draft a backup QB in the 2nd round. 

[Motown Bombers]

Maybe McShay was right after all. 

 

[Shinzaki]

Arrest warrant out for Jalen Carter concerning his involvement in a fatal auto accident stemming from a car race gone south

Edited March 1, 2023 by Shinzaki

[Jason_R]

14 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I don't understand the obsession with drafting a backup QB so high when the starter missed 5 snaps and that was do to blowout wins. Goff has missed 5 games over 6 years. 3 were due to injury, one to COVID, and one to rest after the Rams clinched the division. I also think one of the three games he missed due to injury was just McVay benching him. There's no need to draft a backup QB in the 2nd round. 

Yes. If the team is looking for backups, it would be far more important to have them on the OL so Goff can stay upright if one of the big guys breaks a finger or a toe. 

On Holmes’s comments… I would be astonished if they take a QB on day one or two. He can’t tip his hand, as it would be to his benefit if there was a run on QBs before pick 6. But I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Goff celebrates his 35th birthday as Lions QB. 

[Jason_R]

Just now, Shinzaki said:

Arerest warrant out for Jalen Carter concerning his involvement in a fatal auto accident stemming from a car race gone south

Yikes. There’s the rest of the story. Carter will probably fall, but I don’t see this Lions leadership taking him. 

[Hongbit]

Nice of UGA to cover it up for this long for him.  Shame they couldn’t have kept a lid on it for a few more months to really help him out.  Unfortunate that he didn’t go to Alabama.  Doubt he would’ve been charged with anything.  

[Motown Bombers]

Apparently it's misdemeanors so likely no jail time. Still not good. 

[RandyMarsh]

Yeah no way this management drafts him now even if he does fall to us. Would go against everything they have preached and built the last couple years. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

What is the legal culpability for fleeing the scene of an accident in which you were allegedly drag racing with that person and they then died?

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

What is the legal culpability for fleeing the scene of an accident in which you were allegedly drag racing with that person and they then died?

It's being reported he's wanted on misdemeanors. Doesn't sound like jail time. 

[1984Echoes]

25 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

I don't understand the obsession with drafting a backup QB so high when the starter missed 5 snaps and that was do to blowout wins. Goff has missed 5 games over 6 years. 3 were due to injury, one to COVID, and one to rest after the Rams clinched the division. I also think one of the three games he missed due to injury was just McVay benching him. There's no need to draft a backup QB in the 2nd round. 

It's called going to the Super Bowl.

You don't go to the Super Bowl if you have NOTHING behind your starting QB and he gets nicked for a few weeks or in the playoffs.

It's the same reason we need to draft at least a backup RB behind Williams/ Swift...

Those guys are AWESOME!!! "Why do we need a backup RB behind those two awesome guys?" "Can you guarantee that Swift will be healthy for the playoffs next year?" "No."

That's why.

[Motown Bombers]

Just now, 1984Echoes said:

It's called going to the Super Bowl.

You don't go to the Super Bowl if you have NOTHING behind your starting QB and he gets nicked for a few weeks or in the playoffs.

It's the same reason we need to draft at least a backup RB behind Williams/ Swift...

Those guys are AWESOME!!! "Why do we need a backup RB behind those two awesome guys?" "Can you guarantee that Swift will be healthy for the playoffs next year?" "No."

That's why.

The backup QB for the Chiefs was Chad Henne and the backup QB for the Eagles was Gardner Minshew. Mahomes got nicked in the playoffs and Henne led them on a 98 yard TD drive. They don't need to draft a backup QB. 

[Motown Bombers]

I still think Carter goes in the first round. Maybe not top 5 anymore but top 15-20.  If he isn't actually in prison someone will take him in the 1st. He may be available at 18. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

It sounds like he changed his story several times too. How much does this defer from the Henry Ruggs situation if Carter was indeed driving intoxicated and drag racing and that drag race caused the fatality?

[RandyMarsh]

They may beable to cross that bridge when the time comes via trade or FA pickup but I do think they need an upgrade at backup qb if Goff were to ever go down.

I'm talking about a shorter absence like 3-5 weeks not necessarily 10+ week absence cause in that case were probably screwed no matter who we had.

But if it's say 5 weeks Id like to have somebody with the ability to may be win us 2 to 3 games so our division/playoff hopes don't totally go up in flames with any sorta Goff injury. 

[MichiganCardinal]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Holmes is a master of the nothing-burger answer.

[MichiganCardinal]

McShay first reported about character issues regarding Jalen Carter in mid-December. This crash happened in mid-January. Not only was this not what McShay was reporting on, Carter knew that those reports were out there and still chose to partake in this.

[MichiganCardinal]

Also, it's curious they aren't seeking an Involuntary Manslaughter charge based on the facts of the case... If he's guilty of a misdemeanor (racing and/or reckless driving), and in the course of that misdemeanor caused the death of another without intending to do so, that's a mandatory year-long felony. I've seen less get charged more severely.

[Stanley70]

Unless they draft a QB by the end day 2 they will bring in someone like Nick Foles.

[Motown Bombers]

3 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Also, it's curious they aren't seeking an Involuntary Manslaughter charge based on the facts of the case... If he's guilty of a misdemeanor (racing and/or reckless driving), and in the course of that misdemeanor caused the death of another without intending to do so, that's a mandatory year-long felony. I've seen less get charged more severely.

Wasn't the other driver who caused the crash and the death? I'm kind of surprised he isn't looking at a longer sentence, especially since it appears he may have lied to police. 

[MichiganCardinal]

1 minute ago, Motown Bombers said:

Wasn't the other driver who caused the crash and the death? I'm kind of surprised he isn't looking at a longer sentence, especially since it appears he may have lied to police. 

I don't know enough about Georgia laws and politics of the prosecutor's offices to say for sure, but most common law criminal codes use a but-for causation test.

For instance, if the prosecutor could show that but-for Jalen Carter racing and recklessly driving, the driver and passenger of the other car would not have died, then there is a causal showing of Involuntary Manslaughter.

I also agree that there are potential charges of the Georgia equivalent to Leaving the Scene of an Accident, Failure to Report an Accident, Making a False Statement to Police, etc... But the Involuntary Manslaughter possibility sticks out to me. I'm sure that similar instances have resulted in more severe charges before.

[Motor City Sonics]

Remember, the Lions drafted Reggie Rogers, who drove drunk and killed 3 kids.   I know that was over 30 years ago, but I think that might be a factor in avoiding someone who did this. 

And yeah, the story got buried.   The SEC........it just means more.    

Drunk driving where a death is invovled and a misdemeanor ? 

You know what?  I want to propose a ban of all drunk driving PSAs.   Those PSAs are full of shit.   How many people get multiple drunk driving arrests and still are out there?      Those PSAs are meaningless.     

And is it me, or is drinking because a much bigger problem in the last 10 years?

[buddha]

if the lions draft a qb at #6 or #18 its not to "draft a backup," its to draft a future starter.  he may be a backup (or third string) this year, but its with an eye to the future.  

on that note, if richardson plays for ohio state or texas tech (like mahomes did) is he putting up similar numbers in those qb friendly systems?  i dont know enough to know.

[buddha]

Just now, Motor City Sonics said:

Remember, the Lions drafted Reggie Rogers, who drove drunk and killed 3 kids.   I know that was over 30 years ago, but I think that might be a factor in avoiding someone who did this. 

And yeah, the story got buried.   The SEC........it just means more.    

Drunk driving where a death is invovled and a misdemeanor ? 

You know what?  I want to propose a ban of all drunk driving PSAs.   Those PSAs are full of shit.   How many people get multiple drunk driving arrests and still are out there?      Those PSAs are meaningless.     

And is it me, or is drinking because a much bigger problem in the last 10 years?

its you.  if anything, different types of drugs have become issues, but drinking has ALWAYS been an issue.

[Motor City Sonics]

And young people are stupid.  I was too at that age, and if you give them lots of money they tend to do bigger, stupider things.