2023 NFL Draft Thread

[Motown Bombers]

Apparently can't embed tweets anymore. 

[1984Echoes]

1 hour ago, Hongbit said:

I hate Gibbs.  Seems small and fragile.    Achane is even worse. 

I wouldn't mind Charbonnet in the 2nd or 3rd... bigger and stronger.

[RandyMarsh]

11 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Apparently can't embed tweets anymore. 

Damn that's the worst news I've heard all day. Hopefully it gets fixed cause it's a pain having to click on the link everytime. 

[Jason_R]

After the combine, is there any chance that Richardson will last past the sixth overall pick?

[Hongbit]

7 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

After the combine, is there any chance that Richardson will last past the sixth overall pick?

Doubt it.   Only chance is if he shows up in the next Ja Morant IG. 

Edited March 6, 2023 by Hongbit

[Hongbit]

Titans also apparently listening on Derrick Henry.   No love for old running backs.

[RandyMarsh]

5 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

Doubt it.   Only chance is if he shows up in the next Ja Morant IG. 

That would mean the Lions will be picking him cause I don't see anybody in front of them drafting one and Im skeptical in this day and age a team would be willing to trade up for a RB.

[buddha]

no thanks on derrick henry.  hard pass.

[buddha]

Just now, RandyMarsh said:

That would mean the Lions will be picking him cause I don't see anybody in front of them drafting one and Im skeptical in this day and age a team would be willing to trade up for a RB.

i think there's a pretty good chance he does before detroit.  seattle is a good possibility.

[Hongbit]

2 minutes ago, buddha said:

no thanks on derrick henry.  hard pass.

I don’t want a 29 year old rb for $10M either but it would be interesting if they would pay some salary and a late draft pick.   Lions could let Williams and Swift go and proceed to run Henry into the ground for 2 seasons until he breaks.   Could draft a couple the next few drafts on later round flyers too.    Won’t happen but fun to ponder.  

[Motown Bombers]

I'm not a hard pass on Henry. He has only one more year left on his contract and was still productive. Would easily fill the Jamaal Williams role. If he's available for a mid round pick, I think I'm in. He was still pretty good last year. 

[Jason_R]

2 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

That would mean the Lions will be picking him cause I don't see anybody in front of them drafting one and Im skeptical in this day and age a team would be willing to trade up for a RB.

I meant Anthony Richardson, not Bijan Robinson. 

Before the draft most mocks had him in the middle of the first round, too late to impact Detroit’s first pick. I saw one post-combine mock with Richardson going at 7. But at this point I just can’t imagine him lasting that long. And I saw another mock where he went one and Stroud went at 7. 

I guess I’m starting to feel more optimistic that Richardson’s rise will result in options for Holmes to deal. 

[MichiganCardinal]

35 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Speaking of running backs...

https://twitter.com/NFLonCBS/status/1632783763938607107?t=JcNneWHpP9LiDcDAKtxKqA&s=19

Henry is the Hummer H1. Reinvented the position. Couldn't fit in parking spots. Makes heads turn when he runs down the field... But his owner showed him off too much... Now he's got 150,000 miles, there is some body damage, and they're looking to upgrade.

I'm not going to give up assets for a used Hummer H1 in his contract season when I could get my own Hummer H4 off the lot in April.

I tried. 😂

[Motown Bombers]

1500 yards, 13 TDs, 4.4 YPC he's certainly not done. You're only committed to him for one year in which you project to be a division contender. Goff excels with a strong run game he can play action pass off of. The question is how much more is he than Jamaal Williams and I wouldn't be looking at anything higher than a 3rd round pick. I don't think Holmes would be interested though. 

[MichiganCardinal]

11 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

I meant Anthony Richardson, not Bijan Robinson. 

Before the draft most mocks had him in the middle of the first round, too late to impact Detroit’s first pick. I saw one post-combine mock with Richardson going at 7. But at this point I just can’t imagine him lasting that long. And I saw another mock where he went one and Stroud went at 7. 

I guess I’m starting to feel more optimistic that Richardson’s rise will result in options for Holmes to deal. 

I don't think I let Stroud pass me unless Anderson or Wilson are also still on the board. Not saying I move up for him, but he's the one QB that would make me say "he's still here??" if he fell.

That said, I agree. The ideal situation for the Lions sees four QBs go in the top five.

[RandyMarsh]

43 minutes ago, Jason_R said:

I meant Anthony Richardson, not Bijan Robinson. 

Before the draft most mocks had him in the middle of the first round, too late to impact Detroit’s first pick. I saw one post-combine mock with Richardson going at 7. But at this point I just can’t imagine him lasting that long. And I saw another mock where he went one and Stroud went at 7. 

I guess I’m starting to feel more optimistic that Richardson’s rise will result in options for Holmes to deal. 

Duh my brain read it as Robinson. Damn Mondays but yeah I agree about Richardson I def put it at more than 50/50 he is gone by 6.

[1984Echoes]

I want (12) 1st round draft picks in 2023.

[MotownWebGuy]

 

 

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Apparently can't embed tweets anymore. 

Seems to work...

[CMRivdogs]

It seemed to be a twitter glitch, looks like they fixed it shortly after MB's post.

[KnoxP]

3 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

I'm not a hard pass on Henry. He has only one more year left on his contract and was still productive. Would easily fill the Jamaal Williams role. If he's available for a mid round pick, I think I'm in. He was still pretty good last year. 

Hey all, long time reader, used to post on the old board a bit. Nice to jump in.

I would be a hard pass on Henry as a replacement for Williams. Williams locker room presence and personality brings alot to the equation/culture.  I 'kind of' think of him similarly to Ivan Rodriguez signing with the Tigers.  THey sucked before he joined but he was the first and maintained production, eventually making Detroit a good place to be, bringing others along. 

All in all my comparison maybe a bit of a stretch, but not knowing much about Henry other than his stats, I'm not doing that.

Thanks, I'll try to jump in more over time!

[MichiganCardinal]

My Mock Draft 3.1

1. Carolina Panthers (Trade w/ CHI): Bryce Young, QB, Alabama

2. Houston Texans: Anthony Richardson, QB, Florida

3. Tennessee Titans (Trade w/ ARI): CJ Stroud, QB, Ohio State

4. Indianapolis Colts: Peter Skoronski, OT/G, Northwestern

5. Seattle Seahawks (from DEN): Tyree Wilson, EDGE, Texas Tech

6. Detroit Lions (from LAR): Will Anderson, EDGE, Alabama

7. Las Vegas Raiders: Jalen Carter, DT, Georgia

8. Atlanta Falcons: Christian Gonzalez, CB, Oregon

9. Chicago Bears (Trade w/ CAR): Myles Murphy, EDGE, Clemson

10. Philadelphia Eagles: Joey Porter Jr., CB, Penn State

11. Arizona Cardinals (Trade w/ TEN): Devon Witherspoon, CB, Illinois

12. Houston Texans (from CLE): Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU

13. New York Jets: Paris Johnson, OT, Ohio State

14. New England Patriots: Tyler Steen, OT, Alabama

15. Green Bay Packers: Brian Branch, DB, Alabama

16. Washington Commanders: Michael Mayer, TE, Notre Dame

17. Pittsburgh Steelers: O’Cyrus Torrence, OG, Florida

18. Detroit Lions: Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Lukas Van Ness, EDGE, Iowa

20. Seattle Seahawks: Tuli Tuipuloto, EDGE, USC 

21. Los Angeles Chargers: Calijah Kancey, DT, Pitt

22. Baltimore Ravens: Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State

23. Minnesota Vikings: Will Levis, QB, Kentucky

24. Jacksonville Jaguars: Jordan Addison, WR, USC

25. New York Giants: Cedric Tillman, WR, Tennessee

26. Dallas Cowboys: Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina

27. Buffalo Bills: Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah

28. Cincinnati Bengals: Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama

29. New Orleans Saints (from DEN thru SF): Isaiah Foskey, EDGE, Notre Dame

30. Indianapolis Colts (Trade w/ PHI): Hendon Hooker, QB, Tennessee

31. Kansas City Chiefs: Jaelyn Duncan, OT, Maryland

 

Lions

2.18: Antonio Johnson, DB, Texas A&M

2.26: Bryan Bresee, DT, Clemson

3.18: Cody Mauch, OG, North Dakota State

3.28 (Trade w/ BUF for D'Andre Swift): Daiyan Henley, LB, Washington State

5.18: Andrei Iosivas, WR, Princeton

6.5 (from DEN): Jake Moody, K, Michigan

6.18: Max Duggan, QB, TCU

Relevant Free Agency: Jamel Dean, CB (3/$50MM, $25MM guaranteed); Bobby Wagner, LB (1/$9MM, fully guaranteed); Andy Dalton, QB (1/$3MM, fully guaranteed)

Relevant Re-signings: DJ Chark (2/$20MM, $10MM guaranteed); Jamaal Williams (2/$7.5MM, $5MM guaranteed)

Relevant Release: Halapoulivaati Vaitai, OG; Romeo Okwara, EDGE

Restructure: Jared Goff, QB

[buddha]

are these mock drafts of mc dreams?  lol.

[NYLion]

Just listen to Richardson speak, you can tell right off the bat that teams are going to fall in love with him in the interview process. Add in the elite physical tools and strong arm and somebody is going to take a shot at him way higher than he should go. One can say that Malik Willis was a great interview and also had the strong arm but he didn't have near the physical tools that Richardson does, Willis was also a couple of years older. 

Personally, I wouldn't take him with a top 10 pick nevermind a top 5 pick but it's becoming increasingly likely that he'll go top 10, maybe even top 5. The three things that could really shake up the group before the Lions is a 4th QB being taken, a team reaching for Tyree Wilson (some smoke to the Cardinals really liking him) or Carter's legal troubles scaring teams off. All 3 are possible.

[NYLion]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

are these mock drafts of mc dreams?  lol.

I was thinking that FA signings are even more of a pipedream. Chark at 2 yrs $20m? Jamaal at 2 yrs $7.5m? Wagner at 1 year $9m? Those guys would REALLY have to love Dan Campbell to sign at those prices.

[MichiganCardinal]

10 minutes ago, buddha said:

are these mock drafts of mc dreams?  lol.

Don't wake me up