Media Meltdown and also Media Bias 101

[oblong]

Cavuto never bugged me. He seemed alright and straight arrow. 

[gehringer_2]

5 hours ago, Deleterious said:

Cavuto retired in protest.  That is the story I'm going with anyway.

Neil Cavuto Exits Fox News After 28 Years

you'll know it wasn't really a retirement when he shows up back on the air somewhere else shortly.

[chasfh]

From the Department of The Story That Just Wouldn't Die Already:

In a bid to not repeat the hubristic mistake I made a couple weeks ago with the Fox News debacle (insert joke of choice here), this time I waited for the segment to actually air before sharing it here.

This three-minute interview ran on the NewsNation cable network this morning on their Morning in America program. Despite appearances, Markie Martin is not grilling me relentlessly in this thumbnail, and I am not recoiling in horror for being Dunning-Krugered.

You may not care about me or the story one way or other, but I hope you at least respect that I'm properly representin' here.

[VegasTiger]

Awesome! Way to represent.

[smr-nj]

Nice , Chaz 👍.  Wearing the colors

[The Ronz]

What library is that book from?

Walt Whitman? Busch? Miller?

Most of Warren's libraries have been closed for decades.

Either way I'm telling Violet Splatt on you!

J/K - I imagine she passed away decades ago.

 

 

 

[chasfh]

24 minutes ago, The Ronz said:

What library is that book from?

Walt Whitman? Busch? Miller?

Most of Warren's libraries have been closed for decades.

Either way I'm telling Violet Splatt on you!

J/K - I imagine she passed away decades ago.

 

 

 

Walt Whitman.

[Screwball]

I enjoyed that interview. Great job and great deal. Loved the Detroit baseball hat, but I would expect nothing less from you. 🙂

[mtutiger]

The body isn't even cold yet, FFS....

[chasfh]

37 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

The body isn't even cold yet, FFS....

At least the projection is hot!

[Tigeraholic1]

2 hours ago, mtutiger said:

The body isn't even cold yet, FFS....

He is on point with this too. No one seems to care Biden lied over and over about having meetings with innocent Hunter and China. 

 

 

[mtutiger]

9 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

He is on point with this too. No one seems to care Biden lied over and over about having meetings with innocent Hunter and China. 

 

 

A "For You" set Twitter guy leading a post off with "_____ destroys ____" while the clip shows Jennings engaging rampant whataboutism and, taken to it's logical end, his argument basically endorses corruption when his allies do it.... none of this is particularly convincing or compelling. Or even interesting.

Edited December 31, 2024 by mtutiger

[Tigeraholic1]

22 minutes ago, mtutiger said:

A "For You" set Twitter guy leading a post off with "_____ destroys ____" while the clip shows Jennings engaging rampant whataboutism and, taken to it's logical end, his argument basically endorses corruption when his allies do it.... none of this is particularly convincing or compelling. Or even interesting.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/28/politics/hunter-biden-joe-biden-business-partners-photos/index.html

[Tiger337]

3 hours ago, mtutiger said:

The body isn't even cold yet, FFS....

Several years ago Jimmy Carter came to give a talk at Brandeis University where I work.  Students were prepared to protest something he supposedly did to or said about Jewish people.  However, he delivered such a brilliant speech and answered questions so skillfully that students seemed to forget what they were protesting.  He won everyone over. That's what politicians do!  But he was smart too.  Much like Bert at the baseball game decades ago, I had to pee the whole time, but I still enjoyed it.  

[gehringer_2]

10 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

Several years ago Jimmy Carter came to give a talk at Brandeis University where I work.  Students were prepared to protest something he supposedly did to or said about Jewish people.  However, he delivered such a brilliant speech and answered questions so skillfully that students seemed to forget what they were protesting.  He won everyone over. That's what politicians do!  But he was smart too.  Much like Bert at the baseball game decades ago, I had to pee the whole time, but I still enjoyed it.  

still in all, he was a much better ex-president than president. He was overconfident and unprepared in 1976 and by 1980 he was pretty much in a state of paralysis in both foreign and economic policy. I'm glad he found personal redemption in his life, but as a purely political calculation it would have been nice if he hadn't done so much to grease the skids for Reagan.

Edited December 31, 2024 by gehringer_2

[Tiger337]

2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

still in all, he was a much better ex-president than president. He was overconfident and unprepared in 1976 and by 1980 he was pretty much in a state of paralysis in both foreign and economic policy. I'm glad he found personal redemption in his life, but as a purely political calculation it would have been nice if he hadn't done so much to grease the skids for Reagan.

My impressions of his presidency were not good at the time, but I was too young to care.  I was impressed by what he did after his presidency.  Almost every other President either did nothing of consequence or used his past presidency to enrich himself.  

[gehringer_2]

43 minutes ago, Tiger337 said:

My impressions of his presidency were not good at the time, but I was too young to care.  I was impressed by what he did after his presidency.  Almost every other President either did nothing of consequence or used his past presidency to enrich himself.  

I wouldn't knock the number of caddies Gerald Ford may have put through school......

⛳

[chasfh]

My friend who used to program the public TV station here in town went to Emory U and interned at the Carter Center for right around that time, and said he'd met Jimmy a few times. Speaks extremely highly of him.

Jimmy Carter had arguably the best post-presidency of anyone in history. William Howard Taft is also up there as CJSCOTUS. J.Q. Adams was an anti-slavery congressman after his time in office. I'm not sure who else is even in the discussion.

[gehringer_2]

oddly enough, Hoover ended up being quite influential in his post presidential life. Chaired a government re-org program for Truman  but probably more his establishment (pre presidency) and fundraising (post presidency) for the Hoover Institution - which has had enduring influence on US politics.

Edited December 31, 2024 by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

Carter was obviously a better ex-President than he was a President, even if some aspects of his Presidency aged better in hindsight.

Either way, in the context of this thread, I find guys like Jennings pissing on him before he's even in the ground to be classless and tasteless. It's a sign of the times that he gets time on the air to do it and that he gets to do it on "liberal" CNN

Edited January 1 by mtutiger

[Tigeraholic1]

Carter was a terrible president and with his lack of leadership ushered in the Islamic Republic. He was a great human afterwards but the stain of his mistakes in Iran live on today all over the middle east.

[Hongbit]

Check out this moron. 

[gehringer_2]

28 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Carter was a terrible president and with his lack of leadership ushered in the Islamic Republic. He was a great human afterwards but the stain of his mistakes in Iran live on today all over the middle east.

Interesting thing is that  Radical Sunni Islam was also just getting off the ground in 1980 with the Siege of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, but the White House and the American Press were so transfixed by the hostage situation in Iran that the whole event flew completely under the radar in the US, but it was the event that largely paved the way for the rise of Bin Laden/AlQaeda/Isis etc.,

Edited January 1 by gehringer_2

[mtutiger]

All I'm gonna say is that if Donald were to drop dead tomorrow and some liberal commentator said something in the tone of what Jennings said about Carter over some of his various ****ups, somehow I think certain folks would be reacting a lot different and reaching for some pearls.

The inability to exhibit any sort of class and respect for the dead is a real sign of the times, and not in a good way.

Edited January 1 by mtutiger

[gehringer_2]

1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Carter was a terrible president and with his lack of leadership ushered in the Islamic Republic. He was a great human afterwards but the stain of his mistakes in Iran live on today all over the middle east.

Carter had let military preparedness slide to where he didn't have many good options when things fell apart in Iran. Still, I doubt a more competent Carter could have stopped the revolution in Iran any more than Reagan was able to stop the one in Nicaragua. Like Assad, the Shah had done enough to make sure his ticket was going to get punched by his people. And the Islamist movement was not something new - it had been percolating in the ME since the fall of the Ottomans. They could have done in Khomeini, but big countries prefer the status quo where leaders are off the table - it's in their overall interest not to encourage that level of asymmetric warfare. We've moved off of that stance some in the 40 yrs since Khomeini  but at the time I don't think any US gov would have targeted him directly. And of course it's not like Khamemei has been any kind of improvement.

Edited January 1 by gehringer_2