Media Meltdown and also Media Bias 101

[1776]

1 minute ago, pfife said:

I commend romad for his great idea.

Now that DOES NOT surprise me. 

[pfife]

Doesnt surpise me that a defender of nazis in this forum is here defending nazis again.

[romad1]

4 minutes ago, 1776 said:

I was surprised that romad1, of all posters, suggested blocking twitter posts on this forum. My comment wasn’t about you. 

Of all posters?  Why because I have the historical knowledge to know why Nazis are bad? 

[pfife]

17 said before he doesnt have an X accout which is censorship 

[CMRivdogs]

If Bluesky would only make it easier to embed posts. Sharing their content is difficult for us over the hill guys

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

If Bluesky would only make it easier to embed posts. Sharing their content is difficult for us over the hill guys

Totally true. 

[romad1]

ADL - which defended Nazi Musk over his Nazi salute - seems to not like the party that Musk loves. 

Alternative for Germany (AfD) Party: What You Need To Know | ADL

[pfife]

1 minute ago, CMRivdogs said:

If Bluesky would only make it easier to embed posts. Sharing their content is difficult for us over the hill guys

You can get the embed html easily but it doesnt seem to work in text boxes here.   I tried a few months ago and it was almost as much malarkey than a magaholicommunitynotes post.   Havent tried recently.

[romad1]

Was watching "Rogue Heroes" the other day and one of the ops they did was on Crete.  They mentioned that the locals all wear black to commemorate the death of their messiah.  

So, while i was in Germany in the 1980s we used to joke about the old ladies who always wore black and it wasn't because their husbands had died in the War it was because mustache man had died.  

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 Since the Holocaust, Germany has worked to overcome its Nazi history. But over the past decade, Germany has faced a rising wave of far-right violence and plots against Jews, Muslims, immigrants and politicians—amid accusations that the far-right Alternative für Deutschland party (AfD) has provoked violence, which it denies.

The rise of the AfD has been one of the most significant political developments in Germany in recent years.

The AfD's success has prompted fears that the party is reintroducing xenophobia and anti-Semitism into mainstream discourse. The use of Nazi-era slogans and imagery, combined with the party's hardline stance on immigration and Islam, has led to accusations that the AfD is fostering an environment in which extremist ideas can flourish. As the party continues to gain influence, the concern is that it could erode the post-war consensus against far-right ideologies in Germany, with potentially dangerous consequences for the country's democratic fabric.

FRONTLINE investigates the rise of the Neo-Nazi AfD Party in Germany | TPR

These people have always been there but the political norms have kept them down, suppressed.  It was not a good thing  to ease off those norms.  Just as it is not a good thing for Trump and company to **** on the norms regarding bigotry and racialist violence in this country we had only just suppressed. 

But, hey they figured out how to build a media blowtorch to funnel Putin-created propaganda as well as their own into the eye sockets of a bunch of people who didn't like being told they couldn't use the N-word.  

Edited 10 hours ago by romad1

[romad1]

and **** baseball twitter if it doesn't remove itself from X. 

[RatkoVarda]

daily reminder for anyone who thought the media might help save us - they won't; the journalists want chaos so the public pays attention to them (We are very important people!) and the corporate owners wants their government contracts and mergers to be approved. we are doomed to live under the boot of clownish fascists and those who think they can trick the clownish fascists into helping them exploit the public. 

[Tigeraholic1]

29 minutes ago, romad1 said:

Of all posters?  Why because I have the historical knowledge to know why Nazis are bad? 

Smartest guy in the room syndrome.

[Tigeraholic1]

1 hour ago, romad1 said:

How is a boycott censorship?  Are we no longer allowed freedom in the marketplace to choose to enable the oligarch propaganda?  

 

You literally said Block not boycott.

[CMRivdogs]

1 minute ago, RatkoVarda said:

daily reminder for anyone who thought the media might help save us - they won't; the journalists want chaos so the public pays attention to them (We are very important people!) and the corporate owners wants their government contracts and mergers to be approved. we are doomed to live under the boot of clownish fascists and those who think they can trick the clownish fascists into helping them exploit the public. 

I learned a long time ago that media companies, like all other businesses are only interested in one thing $$$$.

If you get a chance go back and watch the movie that came out a few years ago about the Edward R Murrow/Sen Joesph McCarthy era. At the beginning is a speech Murrow made to the Radio Television News Directors Association in 1958. It rings Venice more true today.

https://www.rtdna.org/murrows-famous-wires-and-lights-in-a-box

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Our history will be what we make it. And if there are any historians about fifty or a hundred years from now, and there should be preserved the kinescopes for one week of all three networks, they will there find recorded in black and white, or perhaps in color, evidence of decadence, escapism and insulation from the realities of the world in which we live. I invite your attention to the television schedules of all networks between the hours of 8 and 11 p.m., Eastern Time. Here you will find only fleeting and spasmodic reference to the fact that this nation is in mortal danger. There are, it is true, occasional informative programs presented in that intellectual ghetto on Sunday afternoons. But during the daily peak viewing periods, television in the main insulates us from the realities of the world in which we live. If this state of affairs continues, we may alter an advertising slogan to read: LOOK NOW, AND PAY LATER.

For surely we shall pay for using this most powerful instrument of communication to insulate the citizenry from the hard and demanding realities which must indeed be faced if we are to survive. And I mean the word survive, quite literally. If there were to be a competition in indifference, or perhaps in insulation from reality, then Nero and his fiddle, Chamberlain and his umbrella, could not find a place on an early afternoon sustaining show. If Hollywood were to run out of Indians, the program schedules would be mangled beyond all recognition. Then perhaps, some young and courageous soul with a small budget might do a documentary telling what, in fact, we have done--and are still doing--to the Indians in this country. But that would be unpleasant. And we must at all costs shield the sensitive citizen from anything that is unpleasant.

 

[pfife]

3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

Smartest guy in the room syndrome.

more accurately, doesn't go out of his way to defend a nazi like you and 1776 

[pfife]

3 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said:

You literally said Block not boycott.

it would be a boycott.  You can still chose to go to X all you want

Get over yourself 

[romad1]

2 minutes ago, pfife said:

more accurately, doesn't go out of his way to defend a nazi like you and 1776 

Is he calling the men who died fighting Hitler stupid? 

[1776]

1 minute ago, romad1 said:

Of all posters?  Why because I have the historical knowledge to know why Nazis are bad? 

The historical knowledge you have as to why all Nazi’s are bad is not some tightly held secret kept from anyone that is willing to study it. I know why Nazism is bad. I’ve read a number of books on Germany. For all the wrong reasons the one that will always stand out above the others is, ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.’ Nazism is every evil rolled into a single package. My dad fought the Nazis in the Battle of the Bulge. I’m aware of the past. I know why we were there. 
I was surprised you suggested that twitter be selectively banned from this site because that is an extreme response, in my opinion. What would be the next media source to be banned…and the next? Where would it end? 
And for the record, I have never had any association with twitter, whatsoever. No account, nothing. I don’t do social media.  

 

[Motown Bombers]

3 of my 4 grandparents left Nazi Europe for America. I'm glad they are not alive to see Nazism being defended in this country. 

[romad1]

why does a league that has a Rooney Rule supporting the Afd party in Germany? 

[romad1]

5 minutes ago, 1776 said:

The historical knowledge you have as to why all Nazi’s are bad is not some tightly held secret kept from anyone that is willing to study it. I know why Nazism is bad. I’ve read a number of books on Germany. For all the wrong reasons the one that will always stand out above the others is, ‘The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.’ Nazism is every evil rolled into a single package. My dad fought the Nazis in the Battle of the Bulge. I’m aware of the past. I know why we were there. 
I was surprised you suggested that twitter be selectively banned from this site because that is an extreme response, in my opinion. What would be the next media source to be banned…and the next? Where would it end? 
And for the record, I have never had any association with twitter, whatsoever. No account, nothing. I don’t do social media.  

 

We should shun X until that Nazi is replaced as its owner/CEO.   If you support Nazis go ahead and use X. 

Edited 10 hours ago by romad1

[pfife]

Seems like that nazi defending post could have been condensed to 14 words 

[CMRivdogs]

16 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said:

I learned a long time ago that media companies, like all other businesses are only interested in one thing $$$$.

If you get a chance go back and watch the movie that came out a few years ago about the Edward R Murrow/Sen Joesph McCarthy era. At the beginning is a speech Murrow made to the Radio Television News Directors Association in 1958. It rings Venice more true today.

https://www.rtdna.org/murrows-famous-wires-and-lights-in-a-box

 

The movie version of the speech FWIW

 

[1776]

4 minutes ago, romad1 said:

We should shun X until that Nazi is replaced as its owner/CEO.   If you support Nazis go ahead and use X. 

I was very clear, I don’t do social media. In so many ways it’s because of social media that we have some of the problems we do today in this country. 

[romad1]

7 minutes ago, pfife said:

Seems like that nazi defending post could have been condensed to 14 words 

wow

and by wow I mean...too strong, friend. 

Edited 10 hours ago by romad1