Media Meltdown and also Media Bias 101

[romad1]

  On 6/12/2023 at 2:42 PM, gehringer_2 said:

Of course the problem isn't really the Nuke plant - it's the Russians occupying it. You don't need the whole Kakhovka reservoir to keep a reactor in cold shutdown safe, but you do need to do something in the several months available before the current water supply runs down - run a temporary water main or maybe sink a well or two etc. But given the malignancy that everything Russian currently is, any of that could turn into a problem it doesn't need to be.

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My Post-Soviet Studies prof used to tell the story that the Soviet Union offered some of the land occupied after WWII in the Karelian isthmus back to Finland as part of some trade they were proposing and the Finns shook their heads and said no thanks due to the degradation of the land and soil by the Soviets and their ham-fisted management. 

[gehringer_2]

  On 6/12/2023 at 2:51 PM, romad1 said:

My Post-Soviet Studies prof used to tell the story that the Soviet Union offered some of the land occupied after WWII in the Karelian isthmus back to Finland as part of some trade they were proposing and the Finns shook their heads and said no thanks due to the degradation of the land and soil by the Soviets and their ham-fisted management. 

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I'd link it if I remembered where I saw it but apparently Putin is in the process of removing the last vestiges of autononous local management out in the counrty side, moving to make all rmaining local governing offices Moscow appointments. I'm sure that will improve the nation's long term outlook. I wonder if with the LSR the Ukrainians are on to something no-one in the West has had the imagination to conceive might succeed, which is to actually foment indigenous armed rebellion in Russia.

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[romad1]

  On 6/12/2023 at 3:07 PM, gehringer_2 said:

I'd link it if I remembered where I saw it but apparently Putin is in the process of removing the last vestiges of autononous local management out in the counrty side, moving to make all rmaining local governing offices Moscow appointments. I'm sure that will improve the nation's long term outlook. I wonder if with the LSR the Ukrainians are on to something no-one in the West has had the imagination to conceive might succeed, which is to actually foment indigenous armed rebellion in Russia.

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Well, we would be crossing a pretty thick red line to actually make that happen in Russia proper. 

[gehringer_2]

  On 6/12/2023 at 3:19 PM, romad1 said:

Well, we would be crossing a pretty thick red line to actually make that happen in Russia proper. 

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For us true, for the Ukrainians, who don't actually exist anyway, not so much. Amirite?

and of course there was a time we might have said the same things about red lines and  Russia trying to manipulate US elections.  

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[romad1]

  On 6/12/2023 at 3:22 PM, gehringer_2 said:

For us true, for the Ukrainians, who don't actually exist anyway, not so much. Amirite?

and of course there was a time we might have said the same things about red lines and  Russia trying to manipulate US elections.  

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Edited June 12, 2023 by romad1

[romad1]

  On 6/12/2023 at 12:15 PM, Crazy Cat Gentleman said:

 

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[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

I see they figured it out at some point.

[romad1]

  On 6/12/2023 at 4:24 PM, romad1 said:

 

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Damn that series is amazing.  Jared Harris, Stellen Skarsgard and Emily Watson all chewing scenery. 

[CMRivdogs]

  On 6/12/2023 at 3:25 PM, romad1 said:

 

 

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WOW!, 36 year old Angela Lansbury. I really need to seek this out again

[romad1]

  On 6/12/2023 at 5:51 PM, CMRivdogs said:

WOW!, 36 year old Angela Lansbury. I really need to seek this out again

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Go look at her in 1944's Gaslight 

[CMRivdogs]

I had the pleasure of seeing her on stage in Blythe Spirit several years ago in London. Classic play, marvelous actor

[smr-nj]

I saw her in Sweeney Todd on Broadway (a few decades ago)

She was amazing

[chasfh]

  On 6/12/2023 at 5:59 PM, romad1 said:

Go look at her in 1944's Gaslight 

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She was pretty darned cute in WWII-era long hair.

[oblong]

On Murder She Wrote she would cast a lot of her old acting friends so that they could obtain better SAG benefits as they got older.  Genius.

 

[romad1]

You've no doubt heard the story about her being a year older than Lawrence Harvey and playing his (implied incestuous --the book is much clearer that that is the case) mother. 

 

[oblong]

in hollywood women age faster!  Right?

 

[1984Echoes]

  On 6/13/2023 at 12:58 PM, chasfh said:

She was pretty darned cute in WWII-era long hair.

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Stunning Eyes!

[CMRivdogs]

An aside, I found this fascinating in 2023, the camera in courtroom fight has been going on for at least 40 years now.

 

[RatkoVarda]

equaling Bill O'Reilly's $30M payout is the lowest she should accept

 

[Crazy Cat Gentleman]

FFS

"scoop". GTFOH with that.

[pfife]

 

 

[pfife]

I've seen others Xing this too.

 

[pfife]

 

 

[digitalpigsmuggler]

[gehringer_2]

So much for the the Musk X

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/07/31/elon-musks-x-corp-seen-removing-giant-glowing-sign-in-san-francisco-.html