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pfife Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 fyi according to some the NYTimes is liberal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smr-nj Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Tom’s River NJ. MAGA country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ewsieg Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 1:39 PM, Tigerbomb13 said: Amazing There are folks out there that had Covid and as they already had it, don't want the vaccine. From a science perspective, they have a valid argument. Obviously this portion was clipped, but i'm guessing that's what she's stating, that folks that can prove they tested positive, from a science point of view, currently pose no more risk than a vaccinated person and thus, probably should be treated the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/29/cnn-host-chris-cuomo-used-sources-to-find-info-on-andrew-cuomo-accusers-records.html I have to believe this will be the last straw for Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: There are folks out there that had Covid and as they already had it, don't want the vaccine. From a science perspective, they have a valid argument. Obviously this portion was clipped, but i'm guessing that's what she's stating, that folks that can prove they tested positive, from a science point of view, currently pose no more risk than a vaccinated person and thus, probably should be treated the same. there are speculations that a vaccine that targets a strong response via a narrow mechanism like the mRNA vaccine might induce better cellular (long term) immunity than actually having a case, but sure that is all pretty speculative and maybe a marginal difference at best. There are studies that people that got vaccinated after having COVID are even more resistant to subsequent exposure than those previously infected but not vaccinated so it stills seem a more rational course than letting yourself get it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 We had a conversation with one of my nieces who teaches second grade in one of the poorest counties in the state (it's in Virginia's Northern Neck, about an hour or so outside DC). The last year has been a struggle. She teaches second grade, has about 20 students in her class. The kids range from not knowing the alphabet, to those who are fairly competent at the reading level. She never knows who will be in class, especially with COVID. You would have a kid show up for a couple of says then miss two weeks because of family quarantine. When the child gets back in class they've forgotten practically everything they've learned, because parents don't reinforce what they've been taught in schools. The school system requires masks, but there you have parental objection. That on top of my nieces need for them to see her mouth when doing vocabulary. She just has them spread out in the classroom. (Last year when we talked about going up and visiting, she commented on how with her and her two young kids, the place was a petry dish. The District received federal funding, she asked for matching chairs. They're not eligible for the funds. So she has a mismatch of big, little and medium chairs for the kids to sit on. They did get new carpeting, however. They also received a lot of IT equipment that she doesn't need and doesn't have the free time to learn to use while the school's in session. And you wonder why teachers are leaving in droves. Especially once they have become fully vested, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: ... There are studies that people that got vaccinated after having COVID are even more resistant to subsequent exposure than those previously infected but not vaccinated so it stills seem a more rational course than letting yourself get it again. That, and natural immunity from catching Covid weakens over time just as much as getting the double or single shot. Get the booster and I think that matches the first part of what I quoted... the combination is just better than one thing alone... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: there are speculations that a vaccine that targets a strong response via a narrow mechanism like the mRNA vaccine might induce better cellular (long term) immunity than actually having a case, but sure that is all pretty speculative and maybe a marginal difference at best. And some people speculate that getting covid and recovering from it might induce better immunity. With both, we don't know. If anything, we know more about vaccines and as of just recently, the CDC is recommending everyone to get a booster. 6 months ago talks of boosters was considered way to speculative. 2 weeks ago the CDC said it wasn't needed for the majority of the population, now it's everyone eligible. 7 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: There are studies that people that got vaccinated after having COVID are even more resistant to subsequent exposure than those previously infected but not vaccinated so it stills seem a more rational course than letting yourself get it again. So, if i'm reading this right, if you're under 65 and in decent health, get vaccinated and have Covid parties to help ensure you get the disease too, that way you're super resistant? 7 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: That, and natural immunity from catching Covid weakens over time just as much as getting the double or single shot. Right now, there is no evidence that serious risk from Covid weakens over time. I would venture it's likely, but the ER's aren't full of vaccinated folks that haven't gotten their booster yet. Additionally, look at Omnicron. Unless there was a serious discussion of vaccinating the world, versus just the rich countries that can afford it, at some point we have to decide if it's better to line the pockets of the CEO's of Pfizer and Moderna to ensure we deal with very mild complications for 2 days versus mild complications for 4 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 2 hours ago, ewsieg said: And some people speculate..... And the big party over the Merck announcement (molnupiravir) was apparently mostly hype. Actual efficacy levels apparently down in the 30% range - which is better than nothing but is way behind monoclonals and maybe the pfizer drug as well. Initial Merck press releases were talking 80% range. I hope someone is home at the SEC, but doubtful. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/30/1060130774/an-fda-panel-supports-merck-covid-drug-in-mixed-vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 "How dare the Auschwitz Museum call out my trivializing of Mengele's actions for means of political point scoring!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mtutiger Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, pfife said: If history is any indicator, the jobs numbers will end up revised significantly next month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 50 minutes ago, mtutiger said: If history is any indicator, the jobs numbers will end up revised significantly next month. But that's not helping my investments today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 18 hours ago, Archie said: But that's not helping my investments today. I bonds paying over 7% right now chief https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/products/prod_ibonds_glance.htm Edited December 4, 2021 by pfife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1776 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 So he and Andrew can hang out now. Cool. Mario would be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Crazy Cat Gentleman said: Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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