Screwball Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 1 hour ago, ewsieg said: Can't remember which podcast I was listening to last week but they were talking about Pelosi and her background. Family was a political family in Baltimore with mafia ties. As such, she was constantly looking for a way to help someone out so she could in turn get some help when she needed it. They pointed out an example with Ilhan Omar and Pelosi working to ensure she could wear her hijab. So when progressives were after Pelosi, Omar never pushed like others as Pelosi had her back. I've heard from several past, but recent GOP reps talk about McCarthy and they seem him as nothing but a power hungry rep that has no conviction and they have no respect for. If true, it'll make Pelosi's straddling the edge over the last two years look like a cake walk. I think it was Justin Amash, a Michigan guy who most would remember I think. He said McCarthy is one of the biggest POS he ever dealt with (and probably not the only one). Imagine that. He was offering on Twitter to be Speaker of the House, and what he would do. That would be a hoot, but would never happen. He made too much sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, Screwball said: I think it was Justin Amash, a Michigan guy who most would remember I think. He said McCarthy is one of the biggest POS he ever dealt with (and probably not the only one). Imagine that. He was offering on Twitter to be Speaker of the House, and what he would do. That would be a hoot, but would never happen. He made too much sense. I saw that. Between Amish and Joe Walsh (the former Congress Critter and talk show host), two Republicans I never thought I'd follow. That's how bad the party is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 21 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: I saw that. Between Amish and Joe Walsh (the former Congress Critter and talk show host), two Republicans I never thought I'd follow. That's how bad the party is. Been a while, but one of his bullet points was "small" bills. That seems obvious, but that's just me. Of course, if "they" wanted that to happen - it would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chasfh Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 This entire era is all about concentrated power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 I am still 100%, absolutely, under the belief that the new House Dems coming in should (TODAY!!!) whip their caucus and give a call to... Steve Scalise. Cut a deal with him. Keep the investigations to an absolute minimum... And announce that... "100% of the incoming Democrats in Congress will vote for Steven Scalise for Speaker of the House". https://www.yahoo.com/news/kevin-mccarthy-says-democrats-could-195056960.html I don't trust, or like McCarthy. Getting 100% Dems behind Scalise gives power to the moderate/ centrist Republicans, who have enough members to stonewall the Fascist Republican wing and the McCarthy (he and MAGA = not much difference) wing... and push Scalise into the Speakership. It would force the 118th into the center and away from partisan hackery/ incessant confrontational politics. Or... at least hopefully... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Don McEachern, D-VA, died. If current races hold, that moves the chamber from 222-213 to 222-212. If things were closer, like they were looking for a bit, each of those vacancies, special elections, timing of the special elections, would loom large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 On 11/21/2022 at 7:40 PM, Screwball said: I think it was Justin Amash, a Michigan guy who most would remember I think. He said McCarthy is one of the biggest POS he ever dealt with (and probably not the only one). Imagine that. He was offering on Twitter to be Speaker of the House, and what he would do. That would be a hoot, but would never happen. He made too much sense. It's funny. I am definitely not a Libertarian and don't agree with most of the ideology, but Justin Amash was about the only congress person I liked listening to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: I am still 100%, absolutely, under the belief that the new House Dems coming in should (TODAY!!!) whip their caucus and give a call to... Steve Scalise. Cut a deal with him. Keep the investigations to an absolute minimum... And announce that... "100% of the incoming Democrats in Congress will vote for Steven Scalise for Speaker of the House". https://www.yahoo.com/news/kevin-mccarthy-says-democrats-could-195056960.html I don't trust, or like McCarthy. Getting 100% Dems behind Scalise gives power to the moderate/ centrist Republicans, who have enough members to stonewall the Fascist Republican wing and the McCarthy (he and MAGA = not much difference) wing... and push Scalise into the Speakership. It would force the 118th into the center and away from partisan hackery/ incessant confrontational politics. Or... at least hopefully... PS: Raise your hands if you vote Kevin McCarthy to be second in line for the Presidency: https://www.yahoo.com/news/wanna-dress-rehearsal-next-house-002011171.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: It's funny. I am definitely not a Libertarian and don't agree with most of the ideology, but Justin Amash was about the only congress person I liked listening to. Too many get hung up on an ideology and miss the bigger picture, but that's the narrative. It's easy, expected, and good politics to pigeon hole people into a corner to further the tribal warfare. We should focus on the message and not the tribe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 It will be a big deal if they can find 10 GOP Senators willing to go along and get it past the House before MyKevin and his gang take over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Hoo boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Liz Cheney or Steven Scalice for Speaker please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Scalice is still a Trump apologist, while Cheney is persona non grata in the GOP she wouldn't gather more than a small handful of Democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Maybe on Scalice... but he's much more willing to reach across the aisle which might be about as good as it gets. Agree on Cheney... that was just a pipe dream comment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 PS: As for Dems... I think Cheney is not ideal but, would be viewed as a "fair-minded" partisan rather than a Trump or Freedom Caucus (or fascist forces) Republican... she might get more than just a few Dem votes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: PS: As for Dems... I think Cheney is not ideal but, would be viewed as a "fair-minded" partisan rather than a Trump or Freedom Caucus (or fascist forces) Republican... she might get more than just a few Dem votes... Which they would immediately regret once she started chairing the Hunter Biden investigations. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Didn't Cheney lose so she is out? If so, good. Keep her out. If she was the SOFH there would no war we wouldn't get into, or start, and fund (since the money starts in the house). Bloodlines and history (hers) from Darth Vader himself - daddy Dick. Neo-con warmonger of the highest order. Nothing but a tool for the killing for profit machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Screwball said: Didn't Cheney lose so she is out? some say since the Constitution doesn't explicitly say the SOTH must be a member that the House is free to elect anyone, including a non-member. The counter is that the model for what the writers would have been assuming as the default meaning would primariliy have been the English Parliament, and the speaker there is chosen from the membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 16 minutes ago, Screwball said: Didn't Cheney lose so she is out? If so, good. Keep her out. If she was the SOFH there would no war we wouldn't get into, or start, and fund (since the money starts in the house). Bloodlines and history (hers) from Darth Vader himself - daddy Dick. Neo-con warmonger of the highest order. Nothing but a tool for the killing for profit machine. Dude... I'm on board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 /s btw... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screwball Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: some say since the Constitution doesn't explicitly say the SOTH must be a member that the House is free to elect anyone, including a non-member. The counter is that the model for what the writers would have been assuming as the default meaning would primariliy have been the English Parliament, and the speaker there is chosen from the membership. I know, it is possible. Best I can tell, they could elect (not sure that's the right word) anyone. I'll do it. Think that wouldn't be a hoot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Screwball said: I know, it is possible. Best I can tell, they could elect (not sure that's the right word) anyone. I'll do it. Think that wouldn't be a hoot? How hard could it be? Robert's Rules of Order isn't a very big book..... 😄 Edited December 7, 2022 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 Straight outta Veep lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 12/6/2022 at 7:42 PM, Screwball said: I know, it is possible. Best I can tell, they could elect (not sure that's the right word) anyone. I'll do it. Think that wouldn't be a hoot? At least, we would finally have an honest speaker. I don't think you'd last too long in politics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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