oblong Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Maybe Gaetz is just fucking with him. I’m going to bed. I’m assuming this means they have it now so no need to stay up. Quote
romad1 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 all so these fuckers can cut the back straps on Ukrainian defense. 2 Quote
romad1 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 4:12 AM, oblong said: Regarding the sex trafficking and Gaetz. I have to think if there were hard evidence they would have used it on him. Expand Like they did on Cawthorn. I actually think they did use it on Gaetz...its just the Panhandle is so faccacta that they voted for him anyway. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 I don't think it's a very long limb to climb out on to predict McCarthy will fall in fairly short order, probably when the 1st debt ceiling vote comes up. The FC will refuse to let the speaker bring it to a vote and that will be the end of McCarthy. At that point, when it's something real on the table and not just a personnel matter, we'll see if a durable majority to govern can emerge from a coalition of the center of the two parties or not. Quote
pfife Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Looks like this might be the end. More present votes this time. Quote
ewsieg Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 4:59 AM, chasfh said: Expand Trump has been trying for days to get the votes for McCarthy. He simply has no pull anymore. Quote
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Author Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 4:52 AM, gehringer_2 said: I don't think it's a very long limb to climb out on to predict McCarthy will fall in fairly short order, probably when the 1st debt ceiling vote comes up. The FC will refuse to let the speaker bring it to a vote and that will be the end of McCarthy. At that point, when it's something real on the table and not just a personnel matter, we'll see if a durable majority to govern can emerge from a coalition of the center of the two parties or not. Expand He doesn't know where his caucus lies most of the time and seems unable to count votes. Not a recipe for success Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 5:01 AM, ewsieg said: Trump has been trying for days to get the votes for McCarthy. He simply has no pull anymore. Expand but you can be sure he will be claiming a personal victory within the time it takes to tap out 160 characters from the gavel drop. Quote
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Author Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 5:07 AM, chasfh said: Expand The guy who lunged at him is Chairman of Armed Services, so maybe that 1 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Kevin McCarthy begins his speakership 1 Quote
pfife Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 Jeffries can still win if Mike Pence has the courage to do what's right. Quote
mtutiger Posted January 7, 2023 Author Posted January 7, 2023 In terms of the prospects of coalition government, after seeing this process play out, if the Dems had picked up/held a couple more seats (something like 219-216), the prospect would have been a higher probability with the volatility of the GOP Caucus. 222-212 is narrow, but not narrow enough. We will have to see how that changes as McCarthy gets further in and as the debt ceiling approaches whether we see changes in leadership Quote
ewsieg Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 debt limit is going to be an absolute shitshow. I'm sure McCarthy reached out to Dem leadership about getting some votes and or presents. I am interested in what a deal there would have looked like. I saw where someone believed the famous AOC/Gaetz talk was based on an attempt to get some Dems to walk out, making the threshold achievable for McCarthy and i'm assuming giving Gaetz the ability to still symbolically vote against him. Quote
chasfh Posted January 7, 2023 Posted January 7, 2023 On 1/7/2023 at 5:26 AM, mtutiger said: In terms of the prospects of coalition government, after seeing this process play out, if the Dems had picked up/held a couple more seats (something like 219-216), the prospect would have been a higher probability with the volatility of the GOP Caucus. 222-212 is narrow, but not narrow enough. We will have to see how that changes as McCarthy gets further in and as the debt ceiling approaches whether we see changes in leadership Expand I’m sure there are Democrats who would vote for a Republican speaker who is not part of or beholden to the Kookoo Kaukus. Maybe some coalition could form around someone before long. Quote
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