pfife Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I can't believe some moderate republics didn't support Jeffries! Shameful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Adjournment. No immediate 2nd vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, oblong said: are all of these no votes just for show and they'll turn into Yes after a few more ballots? I really have not been paying attention to this very much. Been busy with a trip to Cooperstown and half marathon training, running, recovery, etc. Just didn't care about it. I'm just guessing but... I think the next vote for Jim Jordan gets worse, not better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 22 minutes ago, mtutiger said: This is catastrophic for Jordan... catastrophic That has a nice ring to it! How about: "Catastrophe for Trump!" "Catastrophe for MAGA!" Those have a really nice sound to them too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) McCarthy got to 217 by giving stuff away to the point he neutered himself. What does Jordan have at this point he can buy votes with? Will other members believe any promises he makes to them? They all knew McCarthy was going to swing any way the wind blew - do they actually trust Jordan to keep his word even if they don't like/disagree with him? Edited October 17, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Jordan was heart and soul Jan 6. The moderates don't believe **** from him. That's why (in part... or mostly...) he won't be elected Speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: Jordan was heart and soul Jan 6. The moderates don't believe **** from him. That's why (in part... or mostly...) he won't be elected Speaker. You would think it would be hard to take the word of man who refuses to ratify objective reality as meaningful. But what do I know, it's been a long time since I saw the world through a GOP belief filter. Edited October 17, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 LOL. Gonna end up with McCarthy after all...................Oh they are a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 I have no love for Scalise, but he's totally justified here... pretty obvious that Jordan worked behind the scenes to kneecap him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Why are the dems doing this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 Looking to put "Jordan as Speaker" to rest lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 40 minutes ago, mtutiger said: I have no love for Scalise, but he's totally justified here... pretty obvious that Jordan worked behind the scenes to kneecap him Scalice: "Do you mean like how you helped me? What was that about being a team player?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 17, 2023 Author Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, gehringer_2 said: McCarthy got to 217 by giving stuff away to the point he neutered himself. What does Jordan have at this point he can buy votes with? Will other members believe any promises he makes to them? They all knew McCarthy was going to swing any way the wind blew - do they actually trust Jordan to keep his word even if they don't like/disagree with him? It's a cliche as old as time, but when you're a hammer, everything's a nail.... and he (and his allies) basically went for the hammer as his first move to whip votes for today. Maybe he's able to win a handful back, maybe a couple of them voted symbolically today because they hated the process that led us here... but he may lose some votes as well, especially if there are members are convinced his thesis (ie. "vote for me because I'm the only one who can get 217) is now trash and now have a permission structure to go against him accordingly. Edited October 17, 2023 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 He don't have the votes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 The fact that this piece of garbage is even thus close to becoming House Speaker, and thereby putting him third in line for the presidency behind the vice president, it’s horrifying. He would absolutely, given the opportunity, in the 2024 election, refuse to certify the votes for the Democratic opponent. This is a travesty that he’s even this close. The man’s a f’ing Traitor. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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smr-nj Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Cowards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 So, after the failed vote did Jordan set a group of rioters against his colleagues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casimir Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 59 minutes ago, romad1 said: So, after the failed vote did Jordan set a group of rioters against his colleagues? Failed vote? What vote? There was no vote taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) Hannity explained that he was not the one intimidating GQP house members, it was Jeffreis and AOC - they are so mean! They are engaged in - checks notes - politics! Politics! Edited October 18, 2023 by RatkoVarda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 More dribble drabble from the party that champions no responsibility. Just like their Fearless Leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 In my humble opinion, Patrick McHenry is the most logical solution to this circus. But what do I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Matt Labash © 10h • Slack Tide by Matt Labash The two big stories of the day, Jim Jordan and Hamas, collide. Consider the similarities: You can't negotiate with either. Neither are capable of governing. Both are willing to blame others when they blow up their own side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 35 minutes ago, 1776 said: In my humble opinion, Patrick McHenry is the most logical solution to this circus. But what do I know. Absolutely.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, 1776 said: In my humble opinion, Patrick McHenry is the most logical solution to this circus. But what do I know. Sounds workable. Get 30+ Republicans to agree to that route and Dem backing... And shut out the Fascist Caucus of the Republican House Representatives. It works for me. Edited October 18, 2023 by 1984Echoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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