oblong Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 "Women are too emotional to be in politics....." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, mtutiger said: That's the party of the working man right there.... out there threatening to punch the leader of the *checks notes* Teamsters lol And here's the thing that gripes me. The "working folks" who badmouth the union because of their politics, but will gladly take the benefits the union negotiated. TBH I'm not well versed on the transportation industries agreement and whether there is or is not a two tiered system on pay and benefits. My only experience was several years when I walked into a broadcast facility that was just about to vote on joining AFTRA (this was about 25 years ago. Full disclosure, my wife was a manager at another facility so I knew a bit about what to expect. I left the job before negations were completed, but my feelings at the time AFTRA was fairly toothless (before the merger with SAG). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 46 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: And here's the thing that gripes me. The "working folks" who badmouth the union because of their politics, but will gladly take the benefits the union negotiated. TBH I'm not well versed on the transportation industries agreement and whether there is or is not a two tiered system on pay and benefits. My only experience was several years when I walked into a broadcast facility that was just about to vote on joining AFTRA (this was about 25 years ago. Full disclosure, my wife was a manager at another facility so I knew a bit about what to expect. I left the job before negations were completed, but my feelings at the time AFTRA was fairly toothless (before the merger with SAG). Supply chain workers get zero benefits from UAW deal. In fact, they will be asked to lower costs or lose the contract more than likely to help offset top tier profits. If supply chain threatens to unionize they will pull the plug and move to Mexico or a deep south state and reset salary to entry level in a heartbeat, their margins are too low. I have seen it happen many times. The W.A.R.N. Act is the escape hatch for supply chain companies to parachute out as soon as workers threaten uniziation. 60 days and you can close the doors no questions asked. Thank your local politician for that one. https://legalaidatwork.org/factsheet/the-w-a-r-n-act-mass-layoffs-or-businessplant-closings/#:~:text=Can my employer lay me,fail to give the notice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 More toddler behavior from James Comer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 42 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Supply chain workers get zero benefits from UAW deal. In fact, they will be asked to lower costs or lose the contract more than likely to help offset top tier profits. If supply chain threatens to unionize they will pull the plug and move to Mexico or a deep south state and reset salary to entry level in a heartbeat, their margins are too low. I have seen it happen many times. The W.A.R.N. Act is the escape hatch for supply chain companies to parachute out as soon as workers threaten uniziation. 60 days and you can close the doors no questions asked. Thank your local politician for that one. https://legalaidatwork.org/factsheet/the-w-a-r-n-act-mass-layoffs-or-businessplant-closings/#:~:text=Can my employer lay me,fail to give the notice. Thank's got it. BTW my local Congress critter only cares about his kickbacks from Newport News ShipYard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted November 14, 2023 Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 Ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Thank's got it. BTW my local Congress critter only cares about his kickbacks from Newport News ShipYard Tightening a bolt on the assembly line gets you four times the pay of the human that built the part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 When are Biden and Trump going to get into it? Let's find out who the real men are. Start at the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: When are Biden and Trump going to get into it? Let's find out who the real men are. Start at the top. Can we start that off with a 40 mile bicycle race? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: Supply chain workers get zero benefits from UAW deal. In fact, they will be asked to lower costs or lose the contract more than likely to help offset top tier profits. If supply chain threatens to unionize they will pull the plug and move to Mexico or a deep south state and reset salary to entry level in a heartbeat, their margins are too low. I have seen it happen many times. The W.A.R.N. Act is the escape hatch for supply chain companies to parachute out as soon as workers threaten uniziation. 60 days and you can close the doors no questions asked. Thank your local politician for that one. https://legalaidatwork.org/factsheet/the-w-a-r-n-act-mass-layoffs-or-businessplant-closings/#:~:text=Can my employer lay me,fail to give the notice. They could pack up and go before WARN just as easily. WARN serves a purpose but a fairly small one in the overall scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Congress is wild this week. Waiting for Boebert to fire warning shots when someone goes over their time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 30 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: They could pack up and go before WARN just as easily. WARN serves a purpose but a fairly small one in the overall scheme of things. True, no one really cares about the worker. This is just a "See we tried to help" now about that vote.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Tigeraholic1 said: True, no one really cares about the worker. This is just a "See we tried to help" now about that vote.... It's the government's business to create an environment where business wants to stay enough to take care of their workers as well as society demands. There are lots of details to that but that basically a big piece is that everything you do to create a better all round society helps. That's the job. That's why 'kill the beast' and 'starve it till you can drown it in the bathtub' is such lunacy. A well run gov at each level is the key to a lot of things Americans want but they've been brainwashed into thinking they can get those things by magic instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 The Gov apparently has a reprieve until mid January. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/14/us/politics/government-shutdown-vote-mike-johnson.html "The legislation would fund federal agencies at current spending levels with two different expiration dates: Jan. 19 for one set of government programs and Feb. 2 for another set. That timing would allow lawmakers more time to try to finish off the individual annual spending bills, as many conservatives have demanded. The bill did not include any military aid to Israel and Ukraine." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 4 hours ago, mtutiger said: More toddler behavior from James Comer Some video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 7 hours ago, oblong said: If you think McCarthy is mad now, wait until he sees that the conservatives have no appetite for vacating Johnson for doing exactly what they bounced him for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CMRivdogs Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Maybe she should be thankful that they may not be investigating her for her role in the attempted bombing of the DNC 1/5/2021. Just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Every RedState Democrat should use this in their campaign ad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 10 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Every RedState Democrat should use this in their campaign ad The sad truth is probably a large majority to the folks who habitually vote Republican feel it's a feature and not a bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edman85 Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 3 hours ago, oblong said: She strikes me as dumb enough and thinks she's smarter than she is to improperly use reflexive pronouns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 This exchange actually happened 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 Meanwhile in the Senate a bit of background Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 19 hours ago, CMRivdogs said: Every RedState Democrat should use this in their campaign ad Chip Roy may have a fundamental misunderstanding about what people who vote for Republicans even want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Edman85 said: She strikes me as dumb enough and thinks she's smarter than she is to improperly use reflexive pronouns. In MTG's defense, millions of ignorant Americans improperly use reflexive pronouns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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