mtutiger Posted February 10 Author Share Posted February 10 The GOP Brain Drain in Congress continues apace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/6/2024 at 7:24 AM, Motown Bombers said: Correct. All the red hats and their representatives care about is the appearance of maximal cruelty. It makes them feel manly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/6/2024 at 5:50 PM, mtutiger said: Without a doubt, the most useless, most ineffective Congress of my lifetime... at least until the next one … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 3 hours ago, chasfh said: at least until the next one … A Democratic takeover of Congress, both houses... Means we will be a functional country again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 21 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: A Democratic takeover of Congress, both houses... Means we will be a functional country again. I’m sure the Republicans would do their functional part to make that Congress a success … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romad1 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 23 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: A Democratic takeover of Congress, both houses... Means we will be a functional country again. I wish for that to happen. I think there will be violence again though. Having some Gravy SEALS die off doesn't bother me so much as the precedent for political violence being the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger337 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 On 2/6/2024 at 6:50 PM, mtutiger said: Without a doubt, the most useless, most ineffective Congress of my lifetime... But the general sentiment in this forum (I can't remember if you were part of it) seems to be that Biden is a good President because he so strong legislatively. I am not sure how that that can be reconciled with a useless, ineffective Congress. I don't have a strong opinion either way. You guys know more about this stuff than I do. I am just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 8 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: But the general sentiment in this forum (I can't remember if you were part of it) seems to be that Biden is a good President because he so strong legislatively. I am not sure how that that can be reconciled with a useless, ineffective Congress. I don't have a strong opinion either way. You guys know more about this stuff than I do. I am just wondering. Biden managed to pass CHIPS, Bipartisan Infrastructure and Build Back Better, among other pieces of legislation, with pretty narrow majorities (including overcoming the 60-vote threshold) in the last Congress. His reputation on that front is fine IMO. Obviously a President having a good understanding of the legislative process and / or working relationship with members of Congress helps; clearly he gets along with Mitch McConnell, which has helped in some of his legislative achievements. But at the end of the day, there are no Presidents who would work around the kind of rhetorical incoherence that we saw out of Congress during the last week. And frankly, we have three branches of government. Biden is the Executive. The Legislative Branch is the legislative branch. Just as Biden gets blame for things that happen in his administration, Congress should shoulder 100% the blame for how it functions, and when it fails to function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 13 minutes ago, Tiger337 said: But the general sentiment in this forum (I can't remember if you were part of it) seems to be that Biden is a good President because he so strong legislatively. I am not sure how that that can be reconciled with a useless, ineffective Congress. I don't have a strong opinion either way. You guys know more about this stuff than I do. I am just wondering. First two years versus second two years. It's the House of Representative Republicans that have gone completely off the rails. Their only Campaign Platform is: "We are Dysfunctional. If you love a dysfunctional government, do-nothing, corrupt, ineffective government, vote Republican." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 12 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: First two years versus second two years. It's the House of Representative Republicans that have gone completely off the rails. Their only Campaign Platform is: "We are Dysfunctional. If you love a dysfunctional government, do-nothing, corrupt, ineffective government, vote Republican." I also think that the Mike Gallagher types heading for the exits kinda tells the story as well.... don't have to agree with their worldview to recognize these are people who ran for Congress to try to do the work and to legislate. And a lot of these folks (Gallagher, McMorris Rogers, Granger, etc.) are heading for the exits, and one imagines that the direction of the party away from doing actual policy and more toward messaging and grifting (Gaetz, Greene, etc.) has had an impact on why they are choosing to retire. It all confirms what I am seeing, is that this institution is off the rails and is unlikely to be put back onto the rails anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 I think most are choosing to retire rather than get primaried. They've surrendered. The only solution is complete annihilation of the Trump/Putin wing of the party. And that ain't gonna happen anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 But she's retiring to run for governor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1776 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Trump and his minions are setting the Democratic Party up for a watershed election year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, 1776 said: Trump and his minions are setting the Democratic Party up for a watershed election year. This is what I am hoping for. Republican moderates getting the hell out of Dodge... The MAGA crazies get crushed by all sorts of Dems in the general election... And the subsequent implosion of the "Republican Party" discredits the current wave of Fascism in America. One can only hope... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 13 Author Share Posted February 13 (edited) 2 hours ago, 1776 said: Trump and his minions are setting the Democratic Party up for a watershed election year. Here's one of the minions... Really really weird **** Edited February 13 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 apparently the jabronis that spectacularly didn't do anything about immigration last week just impeached mayorkas for allegedly not doing anything about immigration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Demographic collapse and declining birth rates huh. How can people like Tim Scott be around guys like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 (edited) 18 minutes ago, oblong said: Demographic collapse and declining birth rates huh. How can people like Tim Scott be around guys like that? Truly looney tunes stuff. One of the most underrated pieces of analysis about our current state / this upcoming election, imo, has come from Tim Walz (Governor of Minnesota)... saw a couple of clips from news shows last fall where he observed, paraphrasing, that the GOP runs a lot of really weird candidates. And that weirdness is a real weakness... JD's comments are emblematic of that. Aside from how dark and ugly it comes across, it is just really freaking weird to anyone not in that bubble. Edited February 14 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 30 minutes ago, pfife said: apparently the jabronis that spectacularly didn't do anything about immigration last week just impeached mayorkas for allegedly not doing anything about immigration at this point it's anti-climax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Early returns are looking really good in NY-3. Democrat overperforming Biden's numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gehringer_2 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: 5000 total votes cast? The GOP may be broken but so is the American voter. House district in OK is about 37K which is pretty small but 5K is still not much. Edited February 14 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: 5000 total votes cast? The GOP may be broken but so is the American voter. It's a special election in a state house election in a district that has no more than 40,000 people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 This was George Santos seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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