ewsieg Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, smr-nj said: He gone. 216 ayes. So, now what? Time to vote in a new speaker. One thing I failed to account for when I thought the Dems could try and get something out of this.... they just have. Guessing a very embarrassing day or two for the GOP in trying to get another speaker voted in. Quote
MIguy Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I can't believe Democrats have done this! 🤭 Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 And of course, just another example of: ETTD. Quote
Toddwert Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, ewsieg said: Time to vote in a new speaker. One thing I failed to account for when I thought the Dems could try and get something out of this.... they just have. Guessing a very embarrassing day or two for the GOP in trying to get another speaker voted in. I cant believe they let the Republicans self destruct how dare they Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 Will Scalise be worse for Biden/Schumer to negotiate with than McCarthy was? I am assuming Scalise will be the next Speaker. Quote
mtutiger Posted October 3, 2023 Author Posted October 3, 2023 Uh huh... And who bears some responsibility in that exactly? Who has spent years nurturing and enabling thus behavior? 1 Quote
MIguy Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: Will Scalise be worse for Biden/Schumer to negotiate with than McCarthy was? I am assuming Scalise will be the next Speaker. Scalise was recently diagnosed with blood cancer. Not sure he'd have the time for the job. Quote
ben9753 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 This whole saga has to be NYT Pitchbot's wet dream scenario. 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 They need to put Matt Gaetz up just to watch him get smeared Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, MIguy said: Scalise was recently diagnosed with blood cancer. Not sure he'd have the time for the job. Oh, I didn't realize he had a cancer diagnosis. Hopefully he has private insurance to save his life from the ACA death panels and that socialized medicine and government insurance he gets as a Congressperson. Quote
MIguy Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 I'm still in favor of Trump as Speaker. Might as well have the highest level of chaos possible with the Republican party. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 1 hour ago, gehringer_2 said: I wonder if Gaetz actually thought McCarthy would swing a deal with the Dems to keep the Speakership which would have allowed Gaetz to just keep agitating, basically cost free. Hard to see with McCarthy out how the radical wing does not end up dis-empowered. Do they think they can come with a guy that will cede them even more than McCarthy did? The radical wing will not be able to pull in the Blue Dog Republican votes with a potential Speaker further to the right of McCarthy. They lose. The Dems haven't won anything yet... but that possibility exists... We'll see if they can take advantage of this opportunity... Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 43 minutes ago, MIguy said: I'm still in favor of Trump as Speaker. Might as well have the highest level of chaos possible with the Republican party. **** NO. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: GOP Problem Solvers = oxymoron I have a better idea for them: Come to their senses and nominate one of their own as Speaker... and talk to/ negotiate with the Dems. They like BIPARTISAN solutions...? Guess what? Quote
CMRivdogs Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 The entire caucus is nothing but tweeters 5 Quote
mtutiger Posted October 3, 2023 Author Posted October 3, 2023 I still haven't heard a good explanation on this one Quote
gehringer_2 Posted October 3, 2023 Posted October 3, 2023 (edited) well, this does surprise me. I figured McCarthy would have his name put back into nomination and we see January all over again, but apparently not. McCarthy will not run for his old gig Edited October 3, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
mtutiger Posted October 3, 2023 Author Posted October 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: well, this does surprise me. I figured McCarthy would have his name put back into nomination and we see January all over again, but apparently not. McCarthy will not run for his old gig I'm a little surprised, but there are too many hard nos in his caucus... when no Dems offered to help for free, and with him refusing to offer anything in terms of concessions to Dems, the writing was on the wall Quote
mtutiger Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 *something something* institutional norms *something something* Quote
mtutiger Posted October 4, 2023 Author Posted October 4, 2023 Again, *this* is the guy that many feel Dems had to save today... It's not like we're talking about John Boehner or even Paul Ryan.... *this* guy Quote
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