chasfh Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/20/2023 at 12:05 PM, Tigerbomb13 said: More of that “charm offensive” And if there are death threats against Republican spouses, then newsflash, they married into it. How’s that for victim blaming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Lol at Brian Donald saying he has enough experience to be speaker because he workd on hr1, hr2, and hr5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Not a serious political party lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben9753 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Seems like its really a battle for the soul of the party. The MAGA faction has to either force their opponents to fold, thereby showing who's in charge, or they'll destroy the party trying to assert themselves. They have no interest in actually governing, this is all just an exercise in asserting dominance. I predict the "moderates" will eventually fold and MAGA will win once again. But so far they're holding the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 37 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Not a serious political party lol It will be interesting if they get Emmer's name to the floor if the Dems will decide to put him in. It's hard to believe they could do any better than Emmer unless some grand coalition could bring someone in who is not currently a member - which is a very long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: It will be interesting if they get Emmer's name to the floor if the Dems will decide to put him in. It's hard to believe they could do any better than Emmer unless some grand coalition could bring someone in who is not currently a member - which is a very long shot. sounding like they won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) 51 minutes ago, ben9753 said: Seems like its really a battle for the soul of the party. The MAGA faction has to either force their opponents to fold, thereby showing who's in charge, or they'll destroy the party trying to assert themselves. They have no interest in actually governing, this is all just an exercise in asserting dominance. I predict the "moderates" will eventually fold and MAGA will win once again. But so far they're holding the line. It's a battle for the soul of the party, but this whole exercise of going back and forth is just endless cycle of the one thing that defines this Republican Party: grievance. Grievance is to the Republican Party what OxyC is to an opioid addict.... it's all consuming, self destructive, and the rest of us all get to live the consequences of their dysfunction. Edited October 24, 2023 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 24, 2023 Author Share Posted October 24, 2023 Roll out the sandwiches lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 1 hour ago, ben9753 said: Seems like its really a battle for the soul of the party. The MAGA faction has to either force their opponents to fold, thereby showing who's in charge, or they'll destroy the party trying to assert themselves. They have no interest in actually governing, this is all just an exercise in asserting dominance. I predict the "moderates" will eventually fold and MAGA will win once again. But so far they're holding the line. The moderates could, possibly, fold not to MAGA but to bipartisanship and vote for Jeffries. It would be an FU to Trump & MAGA (who deserve it); and probably an FU to their careers. But in the name of the Constitution of the United States of America, they should do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Emmers drops out. My god, this group is clueless and couldn’t govern themselves out of a paper bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Another one bites the dust The clown show continues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Emmer drops out (as per Chad Pergram) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Trump will oppose anyone who voted to certify his defeat which will probably be enough to stop any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) Dems could have signaled a willingness to put Emmer in, but it appears they are playing for a bigger win. Hope they don't overplay their hand. this is such a weird time. In the past a situation like this would get resolved by a group bolting their party, but the tribalism is just too strong today. Edited October 24, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1984Echoes Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 The Dems can send any signals they want... It means nothing until the Republicans FIRST state: "Let's talk." Nothing happens until then. The only choice the Dems have, at this point, is to vote 100% Jeffries. They get nothing anyways... so just wait to see if the Republicans will eventually talk to them (0% chance. At this point in time. Republicans already stated "We don't talk with the Dems until we hit rock bottom"). Have they hit rock bottom yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I can't believe Democrats are doing this! 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 3 hours ago, ben9753 said: Seems like its really a battle for the soul of the party. The MAGA faction has to either force their opponents to fold, thereby showing who's in charge, or they'll destroy the party trying to assert themselves. They have no interest in actually governing, this is all just an exercise in asserting dominance. I predict the "moderates" will eventually fold and MAGA will win once again. But so far they're holding the line. They have to fold because otherwise, they might well be murdered by a MAGA voter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RatkoVarda Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 Emmer was about as "normal" as Dems could have got; might have been a mistake to not take him, because squishes will fold eventually 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 We're gonna end up with MTG in the race . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: We're gonna end up with MTG in the race . Who won’t get moderates to vote for her, either. Looks like the Republicans have checkmated themselves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, RatkoVarda said: Emmer was about as "normal" as Dems could have got; might have been a mistake to not take him, because squishes will fold eventually People are inclined to think this, but idk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, chasfh said: Who won’t get moderates to vote for her, either. Looks like the Republicans have checkmated themselves. People keep framing this in terms of who will fold or not, but this is an extremely divided caucus working with a 4-vote majority. And it's a caucus brimming with grievances between factions that aren't likely to be bridged. A bunch of them are tired of this process and don't understand why McCarthy was even ousted in the first place. It's an extremely tough needle to thread for any of these candidates going forward. Edited October 25, 2023 by mtutiger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 34 minutes ago, chasfh said: ... Looks like the Republicans have checkmated themselves. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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