MIguy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 We need 5 moderate republicans to get sick of the BS and flip to the democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfife Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I totally think this is the unintended consequence of their gerrymandering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Is there even a mechanism to allow for a case where some R’s cave and vote for Jefferies? How does it even get to a vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Straight: They'll bring it to the floor to try and pressure for Johnson to win, even if he doesn't have the 217 in conference. Which opens the floor up to anything, including 5 deciding to do a switch to Jeffries in order to end the pain. Subterfuge: Mods say: "yeah yeah, sure... we're on board"; but do not actually agree with any agreement that caters to the Fascist Faction. On the full House vote... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 To whit: https://www.yahoo.com/news/screwed-anguished-house-gop-seeks-233759265.html ...Yet there’s little hope for relief among the bitterly divided GOP, where the fruitless search for a speaker has become so miserable that some members even floated a return to former Speaker Kevin McCarthy — with Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) as an “assistant speaker.” (The idea has not been taken seriously inside the conference, though McCarthy later received 40-plus votes on the final ballot, coming in second to Johnson.) Others are again mulling ways to empower acting Speaker Patrick McHenry, maybe even without a formal vote on the floor, an idea that risks constitutional challenges. “The animosity is high,” Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) said. Fellow Floridian Rep. Mike Waltz, added: “My fear is that if we keep doing this somebody is going to side with the Democrats." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 2 hours ago, oblong said: Is there even a mechanism to allow for a case where some R’s cave and vote for Jefferies? How does it even get to a vote? If 5 were actually ready to switch sides they tell McHenry they are ready to elect Jeffries and ask him to convene the house to order and recognize someone to nominate Jeffries and ask for vote. McHenry - apparently a straight shooter, would pretty certainly do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigerbomb13 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Another charm offensive I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, Tigerbomb13 said: Another charm offensive I see Would it be too much for the press to keep asking this question of the guy, particularly if he does end up walking away with the gavel? Or would it be too much to risk their "access"? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 11 hours ago, pfife said: I totally think this is the unintended consequence of their gerrymandering. is it unintended? Really? 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 10 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: To whit: https://www.yahoo.com/news/screwed-anguished-house-gop-seeks-233759265.html .Others are again mulling ways to empower acting Speaker Patrick McHenry, maybe even without a formal vote on the floor, an idea that risks constitutional challenges. Chipping away at the Constitution like that might actually be an attractive proposition for several dozen of those people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 I think they're going to coalesce around Johnson. He of election denial/ refusal to certify the electoral count/ and author of the amicus brief to the Supreme Court to suspend MI/ PA/ etc's votes in an attempt to overturn 2020. And the "moderates" are good with this. Is anyone in the Republican Party still interested in democracy? The Constitution of the United States? The United States of America itself? Do they want to split off the center/south of the country and create United Whites Only America States? Just asking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwert Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, 1984Echoes said: I think they're going to coalesce around Johnson. He of election denial/ refusal to certify the electoral count/ and author of the amicus brief to the Supreme Court to suspend MI/ PA/ etc's votes in an attempt to overturn 2020. And the "moderates" are good with this. Is anyone in the Republican Party still interested in democracy? The Constitution of the United States? The United States of America itself? Do they want to split off the center/south of the country and create United Whites Only America States? Just asking... I think that shipped sailed before Jan. 6th ... they just want power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasfh Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 22 minutes ago, oblong said: Except it will take a quarter of a century for these "able-bodied workers" to have any impact, whereas you could allowing freer immigration and solve that problem RIGHT NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gehringer_2 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) Dems should have tried to get Emmer, they'll regret it if Johnson makes it and he isn't losing anyone so far. Edited October 25, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewsieg Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Dems should have tried to get Emmer, they'll regret it if Johnson makes it and he isn't losing anyone so far. The GOP didn't even really give them a shot. I have to imagine Emmer withdrew as he was told he wouldn't get the few crazy voters he needed. The GOP did this to themselves. From a Dem viewpoint, it might be good to head into the next election with the Speaker pushing the abortion issue. The GOP would be best served to ignore and hope voters don't fixate on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smr-nj Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Dems should have tried to get Emmer, they'll regret it if Johnson makes it and he isn't losing anyone so far. They never had the opportunity to “get” him…. 8 minutes ago, ewsieg said: The GOP didn't even really give them a shot. I have to imagine Emmer withdrew as he was told he wouldn't get the few crazy voters he needed. The GOP did this to themselves. From a Dem viewpoint, it might be good to head into the next election with the Speaker pushing the abortion issue. The GOP would be best served to ignore and hope voters don't fixate on that. If the GOP continues its war against women, you bet your ass it’s going to hurt them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMRivdogs Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 We fought a war in 1775 so that we weren't controlled by the church. The very first amendment of the constitution. Allows us to practice what we want and not have to tith the state church by law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 19 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: We fought a war in 1775 so that we weren't controlled by the church. The very first amendment of the constitution. Allows us to practice what we want and not have to tith the state church by law. Based on what we saw at the Beetlejuice play, she likes to play with junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtutiger Posted October 25, 2023 Author Share Posted October 25, 2023 47 minutes ago, ewsieg said: The GOP didn't even really give them a shot. I have to imagine Emmer withdrew as he was told he wouldn't get the few crazy voters he needed. The GOP did this to themselves. From a Dem viewpoint, it might be good to head into the next election with the Speaker pushing the abortion issue. The GOP would be best served to ignore and hope voters don't fixate on that. The optics of Emmer getting pulled down for, in large part, voting to certify in 2020 while this guy (who came up with the SCOTUS Amicus Brief) gets elevated is gonna likely be exploited as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIguy Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Jeffries is going off on Republicans right now and it's glorious. Dude gives the best speeches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oblong Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 It's especially rich given the plea deals we've seen the last week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gilmore Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Double down on being the party of lies, the party that makes criminals their heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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