chasfh Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: How does he even get in the door? Who is this guy? Where did he come from? Where'd he get all the money? Who's paying him? Who is he really working for? What are his plans? Quote
mtutiger Posted January 3, 2023 Author Posted January 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: Of course that wouldn't go anywhere in the end because the GOP would just turn around and remove him, but it would be one more example of chaos brought to you courtesy of the US GOP. In this instance (unlikely as it is), how would they remove him when they cannot even agree on a consensus candidate? Quote
mtutiger Posted January 3, 2023 Author Posted January 3, 2023 Now in the O's, 15 votes against McCarthy Quote
oblong Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 the votes as of now are non binding.... they can change their mind. But that would also be chaos and why would any defectors participate? They haven't changed the rules yet where a plurality of votes is the only requirement have they? Quote
Tigerbomb13 Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) #demsindisarray Edited January 3, 2023 by Tigerbomb13 Quote
mtutiger Posted January 3, 2023 Author Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, oblong said: the votes as of now are non binding.... they can change their mind. But that would also be chaos and why would any defectors participate? Bet the under... It's crass, but people need to stop thinking about the anti-McCarthy wing as conventional politicians and more like the political version of suicide bombers. They do not care, they aren't likely to be ground down or wore down because they do not care. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 Beware of Stefanik....she may be the dark horse. I'm probably wrong but it could happen Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Beware of Stefanik....she may be the dark horse. I'm probably wrong but it could happen I would think the conference would trust her even less than McCarthy. Of course that's the rub with this GOP. They've driven every honorable person away and all the choices are bad. Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) "Welcome to day one of the 'GOP Majority'" Edited January 3, 2023 by CMRivdogs Quote
chasfh Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 I don’t know whether this has already been discussed here, so apologies if it has, but what would be the practical implications of a Democrat like Hakeem Jeffries presiding as Speaker of the House over a Republican-majority Congress? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, chasfh said: I don’t know whether this has already been discussed here, so apologies if it has, but what would be the practical implications of a Democrat like Hakeem Jeffries presiding as Speaker of the House over a Republican-majority Congress? The biggest one would be the instability. Don't see how it could be workable. TBH, the odds are still that McCarthy is going to win through after giving away every shred of the leverages he will need to stay in the job more than temporarily. And then there will be more disarray. I have a hard time seeing any stable Speakership emerging from the present mess unless it's someone like Amash, where no-one likes his politics but everyone trusts his integrity. But I think the only way a left field candidacy happens is a LOT of fast leg work by the Dems to drive it and at this point I don't even see why the Dems would be willing - why not just let the GOP continue to self-immolate? I could see Biden wanting things settled down into some workable order, but the House Dems themselves? Not sure if they would see it as in their interest or not. But we're all just spitballing Edited January 3, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
mtutiger Posted January 3, 2023 Author Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said: TBH, the odds are still that McCarthy is going to win through after giving away every shred of the leverages he will need to stay in the job more than temporarily. I think he's under a 50% chance at this point tbh. Theres not much left he can give up, He's already given up the store and still can't get the necessary votes. I think it's gonna be Scalise Edited January 3, 2023 by mtutiger Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 Cooking up a compromise? Or sharing Christmas cookie recipes? Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) I don't think Jordan's speech is particularly persuasive. Almost "I came not to praise Caesar but the bury him" LOL- the Dem made the same point! Edited January 3, 2023 by gehringer_2 1 Quote
CMRivdogs Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 I think I saw this show during high school class elections Quote
mtutiger Posted January 3, 2023 Author Posted January 3, 2023 If this transpires, McCarthy is done. Quote
Edman85 Posted January 3, 2023 Posted January 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, CMRivdogs said: Cooking up a compromise? Or sharing Christmas cookie recipes? Sharing tips for profiting off of being radical on Twitter. 2 Quote
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