Week Twelve: Buffalo Bills (7-3) @ Detroit Lions (4-6)

[Aar000n]

Nice facemask on the okay before the field goal. 

[RandyMarsh]

Don't agree with that 3rd and 1 throw but hey if it was completed everybody would be jumping for joy but otherwise I don't know how anybody could say they were outcoached. Buffalo is one of the 2 most talented teams in football and we're in the bottom half if not bottom third and were starting backups at several key positions yet still hung in there to the end.  That doesn't happen if you were out coached during the game. 

[sagnam]

NFL should start tracking moral victories.  I guess those matter.

[holygoat]

Just now, sagnam said:

NFL should start tracking moral victories.  I guess those matter.

LMFAO! 

 

I guess Sheila should fire Campbell before the press conference then. 😆

[Hongbit]

6 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

Fuck Dan Campbell and his conservative bullshit. What a losers mentality. 

This is such an awful take.  They were a big underdog dog and It took a perfect play to beat them at the end.   Joseph breaks up that pass 9 times out of 10.  

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

Don't agree with that 3rd and 1 throw but hey if it was completed everybody would be jumping for joy but otherwise I don't know how anybody could say they were outcoached. Buffalo is one of the 2 most talented teams in football and we're in the bottom half if not bottom third and were starting backups at several key positions yet still hung in there to the end.  That doesn't happen if you were out coached during the game. 

The biggest mistake I saw was not taking advantage of 32 seconds being put back on the clock. On a 3rd and 1, you have to go to something more high percentage and try to get it. 

In general, I didn't mind that they let a lot of time off the clock, but a low percentage throw on 3rd and 1 is not a good strategy imo. 

Edited November 24, 2022 by mtutiger

[RandyMarsh]

Just now, mtutiger said:

The biggest mistake I saw was not taking advantage of 32 seconds being put back on the clock. On a 3rd and 1, you have to go to something more high percentage and try to get it. 

In general, I didn't mind that they let a lot of time off the clock, but a low percentage throw one 3rd and 1 is not a good strategy imo

I agree, that was my main gripe but for all we know that could've been on the QB, Goff may have saw single coverage at the line and decided to try to go for the kill. 

[TP_Fan]

2 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

This is such an awful take.  They were a big underdog dog and It took a perfect play to beat them at the end.   Joseph breaks up that pass 9 times out of 10.  

They played for OT. It’s the exact right take. 

[mtutiger]

4 minutes ago, sagnam said:

NFL should start tracking moral victories.  I guess those matter.

Would you have preferred they lose by three touchdowns?

[mtutiger]

3 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

I agree, that was my main gripe but for all we know that could've been on the QB, Goff may have saw single coverage at the line and decided to try to go for the kill. 

Very possible... 

As far as the clock management is concerned, 32 seconds with 32 yards to go was actually a good place to be in. Maybe it looks conservative, but when you play a Buffalo, you have to burn as much clock as possible. As they proved in that final drive, if you give them any time at all, they will put it to use.

Edited November 24, 2022 by mtutiger

[RandyMarsh]

1 minute ago, TP_Fan said:

They played for OT. It’s the exact right take. 

So if they were in FG range and played for the win and turned it over you wouldn't have came on here and bitched about how stupid they were for not taking a FG and going to OT at home? 

[NYLion]

That game was there to be had and boy did they botch that final drive. Clock management was questionable then they refuse to run or throw a short pass on 3rd and 1 and I would have gone for it on 4th down. Playing conservative against the Bills is usually a losing strategy. I hope this doesn't start a spiral downward similar to when they blew the Vikings game.

[Jason_R]

Agree that the 3rd and 1 play was a disaster. They needed the first down and to milk the clock. 

But imagine this team next year with Jaymo, two firsts, and two seconds. 

[Motown Bombers]

Being conservative now is throwing deep on 3rd and 1.

[NYLion]

7 minutes ago, TP_Fan said:

They played for OT. It’s the exact right take. 

I usually don't agree with you but you're right in this case. You play to win these types of games against elite teams, not simply not to lose. They played aggressive the entire game then wussed out on the last drive, I just didn't understand that at all.

[buddha]

change the coach, change the players, change the stadium, change the uniforms.

it doesnt matter.  theyre still the lions and they will forever fuck it up.

[buddha]

5 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

So if they were in FG range and played for the win and turned it over you wouldn't have came on here and bitched about how stupid they were for not taking a FG and going to OT at home? 

if they won by three touchdowns he would bitch.

[RandyMarsh]

I still don't think the clock management was bad it was just that 3rd down decision. We had our timeouts so time was never going to be factor, if we sneak it and pick up that 1st down we would've been in perfect position time wise. 

[NYLion]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Being conservative now is throwing deep on 3rd and 1.

Conservative is bleeding a ton of clock, they were clearly playing for the FG, and then not going for it on 4th down and short. I knew right there and then that Allen would take them down the field and kick the game winning FG.

[buddha]

13 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

This is such an awful take.  They were a big underdog dog and It took a perfect play to beat them at the end.   Joseph breaks up that pass 9 times out of 10.  

but since kirby joseph now plays for the lions, he didnt.

[NYLion]

Just now, RandyMarsh said:

I still don't think the clock management was bad it was just that 3rd down decision. We had our timeouts so time was never going to be factor, if we sneak it and pick up that 1st down we would've been in perfect position time wise. 

It was poor. They left no choice but to play for the field goal at the end with only 30 seconds left and still not over the 30 yard line. It made going for a TD a lot more difficult even if they converted the 3rd down.

[buddha]

wait, people wanted them to go for it on 4th and 1?  why?  to make it a closer field goal?

the bad call was 3rd and 1 when they were too aggressive.  

[Sports_Freak]

Well, hell.

[RandyMarsh]

Just now, NYLion said:

It was poor. They left no choice but to play for the field goal at the end with only 30 seconds left and still not over the 30 yard line. It made going for a TD a lot more difficult even if they converted the 3rd down.

30 seconds and 2 timeouts is plenty of time, in fact I dare say that is the perfect time if you want to score and leave no time on the clock. 

[Motown Bombers]

1 minute ago, NYLion said:

Conservative is bleeding a ton of clock, they were clearly playing for the FG, and then not going for it on 4th down and short. I knew right there and then that Allen would take them down the field and kick the game winning FG.

If they scored a TD without bleeding the clock, there would be bitching about click mangement. They were about 30 yards from the end zone with all their timeouts. They were playing it perfectly but didn't convert on 3rd down.