Week Fourteen: Minnesota Vikings (10-2) @ Detroit Lions (5-7)

[Motown Bombers]

His board also doesn't have the Giants at 50% in any of their remaining games.

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23 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

Ok, that was cool of him.

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I think it's time to bring this back again.

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The Lions actually have deep threats now and Goff is hitting them. That's so weird. Why wasn't the deep pass working with KhaDarel Hodge? Goff is now 5th in TDs, 6th in QBR, 7th in QB rating, and 8th in yards. Top 10 QB. 

[Tigeraholic1]

Man that was fun yesterday! I don't know how to handle all these victory mondays.

 

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So which one of you guys is this?

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

I think it's time to bring this back again.

Where is the, I wanted to draft a QB in the 2023 draft check box option for people like me?

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13 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Where is the, I wanted to draft a QB in the 2023 draft check box option for people like me?

The official form will have a write in section. 

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Can't throw it down field.

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

5 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

The official form will have a write in section. 

Great! I'll gladly write in my apology vote. At his point, with Goff looking the way he is, I feel confident that we can pass on Young, Stroud, Levis, whoever in the 1st. Maybe he comes back to Earth next season, maybe he doesn't. But if you have a good thing going, no need to change it up at this point.

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[buddha]

i would be ok with them taking a qb in this draft, jared goff's current hot streak notwithstanding.  you'll never have a better chance than this year.  if they dont feel confident in levis or stroud, then pass.  but if they think levis can become an allen type qb, you should take him with the rams pick.

this is a big couple of weeks for goff.  the jets game is against a really good defense, outdoors in the cold and wind in new jersey.  let's see if he can get 300 passing yards against a solid secondary in the elements, or if we get the new england game 2.0.  lets hope williams is out.  then carolina with a good pass rush before a respite against the bears and the pack in the dead of winter.

its going to be a test for jared and the lions.  hopefully he'll pass.

[buddha]

glenn deserves a lot of praise for the defense the last few weeks.  they were dead inbthe water after miami and they've turned it around to become at least respectable.

now he just needs to make sure oruwariye never sees the field again.

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If it were just that easy to draft the next Josh Allen. The Jets have taken two whacks at drafting a QB in the top 10 in the past 4 years and are now starting a 5th rounder. It was just 2016 that Goff was the QB you had to draft and the Rams traded multiple picks to get him.

[buddha]

you either trust brad holmes or you dont.  if they think levis or stroud (i assume young goes to the texans at 1 but you never know) could develop into an nfl game changing qb then you draft him.  if you dont, then you probably dont.

at some point they probably need to take a qb.  doesnt have to be this year, but i assumed that was their plan all along.

but plans change, perhaps their plans have changed?  we'll see.

[Motown Bombers]

I mean, Brad Holmes was one of the major voices in the room that drafted Goff after trading multiple 1sts. I don't think they draft a QB. I'm also becoming certain he took Goff back in a trade to be the future QB. I think some people were just determined to draft a QB the minute Stafford was traded.

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Lions currently have a top 5 offense with a QB who is currently top 10 but lets get a new QB like Josh Allen. The Bills average 0.4 more points per game than the Lions and only 15 more passing yards per game than the Lions. They have 4 more passing TDs than the Lions but also 4 more INTs. The difference between the Lions and Bills is that the Lions defense gives up 11 more points per game than the Bills but the Lions need a QB.

On a side note, the Cardinals now have the worst scoring defense in the league. The Lions defense is no longer historically bad and they went 4-1.

[CMRivdogs]

8 minutes ago, buddha said:

you either trust brad holmes or you dont.  if they think levis or stroud (i assume young goes to the texans at 1 but you never know) could develop into an nfl game changing qb then you draft him.  if you dont, then you probably dont.

at some point they probably need to take a qb.  doesnt have to be this year, but i assumed that was their plan all along.

but plans change, perhaps their plans have changed?  we'll see.

This is basically where I stand. I'm perfectly happy with Goff under the current schemes. I saw recently where when the had their first meeting Campbell told Goff to stop trying to be Mr Perfect and be Jeff Goff. I thing that may be the reasoning behind the transformation from last year. 

I'm also not a big fan of drafting a QB and expecting him to immediately. Give him a season or so to get acclimated. Starting immediately has worked for college QBs, but its still a steep learning curve unless almost all the pieces are in place.

[4hzglory]

22 minutes ago, buddha said:

you either trust brad holmes or you dont.  if they think levis or stroud (i assume young goes to the texans at 1 but you never know) could develop into an nfl game changing qb then you draft him.  if you dont, then you probably dont.

at some point they probably need to take a qb.  doesnt have to be this year, but i assumed that was their plan all along.

but plans change, perhaps their plans have changed?  we'll see.

I'm here 100%.  I trust Holmes to make the decision.  If Stroud or Levis is the guy, they have the ability to sit for a year and step in in 2024 and free up a bunch of cap space.  (It also would give us a higher upside backup in 2023 in case Goff went down.)  If Holmes doesn't believe in them, then load up the defense.  Either way, Holmes has earned my trust so far.

[buddha]

12 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Lions currently have a top 5 offense with a QB who is currently top 10 but lets get a new QB like Josh Allen. The Bills average 0.4 more points per game than the Lions and only 15 more passing yards per game than the Lions. They have 4 more passing TDs than the Lions but also 4 more INTs. The difference between the Lions and Bills is that the Lions defense gives up 11 more points per game than the Bills but the Lions need a QB.

On a side note, the Cardinals now have the worst scoring defense in the league. The Lions defense is no longer historically bad and they went 4-1.

josh allen is much more of a difference maker at qb than jared goff.  the lions should always be looking for upgrades in talent at every position, including qb.

if they think there is a future difference maker at qb, then draft him.  if not, stay with steady eddie jared goff.

i still dont believe goff is really anything more than a game manager, but that's ok.  those guys are valuable too.