2022 Fiesta Bowl: #2 Michigan Wolverines (13-0) v. #3 TCU Horned Frogs (12-1)

[MichiganCardinal]

It’s not like they deserved another chance but that sure looked like targeting to me

[Motor City Sonics]

Is it over? 

[Deleterious]

Screwed by the 3-3-5 again.

[lordstanley]

Michigan might never get a better chance to have won a CFP game. If they make it back it will be against Georgia, Clemson, Alabama, etc. 

[lordstanley]

2 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

Is it over? 

You missed the potential game-winning drive with a minute to go?

[Motor City Sonics]

Please Please Please Please Please Please Please Georgia............win.  

[Motor City Sonics]

1 minute ago, lordstanley said:

You missed the potential game-winning drive with a minute to go?

I shut it off after JJ's first Pick 6 because I didn't want to spend my afternoon/evening being pissed off.     At least they made it interesting but the Big Ten sucked this year and no Big Ten team would have run the table in the Big 12, Pac 12 or SEC.   

[Mr.TaterSalad]

I still can't get over the Roman Wilson touchdown that wasn't. That was a total job.

[lordstanley]

The blown call in the end zone to overturn that TD in the 1st half will go down with USC Charles White’s phantom touchdown in Michigan infamous lore.

[Motor City Sonics]

Now the question is -   Does Harbaugh Bolt for the Colts?      And if he does (I think he will)............who takes over.   I doubt, after tonight, that Jessie Minter would be the choice.   

[MichiganCardinal]

6 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

The blown call in the end zone to overturn that TD in the 1st half will go down with USC Charles White’s phantom touchdown in Michigan infamous lore.

Meh. If you get the ball at the 1/2 yard line 1st and Goal and immediately cough it up, that’s on you.

[Motor City Sonics]

I guess progress is -   Making it to the playoff isn't good enough anymore.  

[Deleterious]

Would love to see the win rate for teams that return two INT's for TD's in a game.

Someone said the most INT's a team has returned for a TD this entire season is 4.  TCU did half of that this game.

[Aar000n]

Difference in the game the refs stepped up. Stolen touchdown was the difference. No targeting was a Vegas call if there ever was.

[Motor City Sonics]

Just now, Aar000n said:

Difference in the game the refs stepped up. Stolen touchdown was the difference. No targeting was a Vegas call if there ever was.

Stop with the TD call.  Had the ball on the 1/2 yard line............Should have scored anyway. 

[Aar000n]

Just now, Motor City Sonics said:

Stop with the TD call.  Had the ball on the 1/2 yard line............Should have scored anyway. 

No 

[lordstanley]

6 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Meh. If you get the ball at the 1/2 yard line 1st and Goal and immediately cough it up, that’s on you.

True, especially when you hand it off to a lineman. It’s still a monumentally bad call by the ref craving attention. 

[lordstanley]

Biggest surprise to me was how badly the Michigan defense deteriorated in the 2nd half. 

Edited January 1, 2023 by lordstanley

[MichiganCardinal]

I’ve got a hard time pinning a loss where you give up 51 points and 4 turnovers (2 pick sixes) on referees botching a spot by a half yard or not throwing a penalty flag.

[MichiganCardinal]

Put another way, the officials may have been the best of the three teams on the field, despite their mistakes.

[Motor City Sonics]

That 4th and Goal from the 2 yard line play call at the beginning of the game was the dumbest in football this year.   You don't design a play where the ball goes backwards on a 4th and short.    They let 'em up for air there.   

[MichiganCardinal]

12 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said:

I guess progress is -   Making it to the playoff isn't good enough anymore.  

It’s hard to be disappointed with a 13-1 season.

I wonder if this - and an NIL chunk of change - incentivizes Corum to run it back. They win this game with him in the backfield.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

14 minutes ago, lordstanley said:

Biggest surprise to me was how badly the Michigan defense deteriorated in the 2nd half. 

They just kept torched on big play after big play. Their secondary couldn't defend the middle and when they were going deep.

[lordstanley]

50 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

I’ve got a hard time pinning a loss where you give up 51 points and 4 turnovers (2 pick sixes) on referees botching a spot by a half yard or not throwing a penalty flag.

I'm not pinning the loss on that, I doubt very many are. It was early on and a ton of stuff happened after, who knows how things would have played out. But it was terrible, infuriating call. It's like a great pitch that wasn't called for strike 3 with 2 outs, and the other team instead goes on to score 2 runs that inning. I think the biggest play of the game was DJ Turner's missed tackle on 3rd and 7 that went for 75 or so yards, just after Michigan had pulled to within 3. 

Edited January 1, 2023 by lordstanley

[Aar000n]

TCU made mistakes. Michigan a bad pass team shredded them. TCU turned the ball over and gave up 45 points. We know the difference. Two heavy weights went toe to toe and the refs ruined it.