romad1 Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 The good news for the B1G is that the West should be better with the new coaches they have. That should make it a swirl of quality. But, since no team will escape without a loss...no B1G team will be in the CFP. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, mtutiger said: Ohio State didn't... most seemed to think that Georgia would win. Michigan? They should have beaten TCU... they are a more talented football team and (despite some of the bad officiating) just made too many mistakes. Can't give up two pick sixes, plus a third turnover, and expect to win in a big game, against a top tier opponent like TCU. JJ's mistakes really hurt independent of the disgraceful officiating that occurred. Quote
mtutiger Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 26 minutes ago, Motor City Sonics said: The Big Ten sucked this year. The 3rd best team was Penn State and Penn State was not good............ I don't think anybody Michigan or Ohio State played this year prepared them for the playoffs and it showed in the end. You put either one of those teams in the SEC, Big 12 or Pac 12 and they don't go unscathed. The Big 12 isn't good either, fwiw Quote
Motor City Sonics Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 29 minutes ago, romad1 said: The good news for the B1G is that the West should be better with the new coaches they have. That should make it a swirl of quality. But, since no team will escape without a loss...no B1G team will be in the CFP. Isn't 2023 the last year of the 4- team playoff anyway? Quote
Hongbit Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 1 hour ago, lordstanley said: We had New Year's from New York on one TV (we're old, we watch the East Coast midnight at 9pm our time then go to bed soon after) and the OSU game on my PC. The PC may have been a bit delayed, but it literally came down on my screens to the kick going wide with exactly 3 seconds until midnight. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted January 1, 2023 Author Posted January 1, 2023 I wonder how much of the putrid performances by both teams can be attributed to taking a month off before this game. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 I’m still trying to comprehend these teams scored 8 TD’s in 8:25 of game time in the 2nd half. Absolute madness! I can’t recall ever seeing something like that before. 1 Quote
romad1 Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hongbit said: I’m still trying to comprehend these teams scored 8 TD’s in 8:25 of game time in the 2nd half. Absolute madness! I can’t recall ever seeing something like that before. A lot of dynamic offense. The Roman Wilson TD where he spun into the end zone was the high point of my day for sure. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 The combination of terrible red zone play calling and piss poor tackling played a bigger role in the loss than officiating, injuries, quality of prior schedule, or long layoffs. Quote
gehringer_2 Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 (edited) Defensive breakdown was always lurking there as possibility with this team, but for me the killer was that after the first play, the O-line didn't move anyone all night - in the second half even though the O was scoring it was too fast, leaving the D still spending too much time on the field. Edited January 1, 2023 by gehringer_2 Quote
romad1 Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Hongbit said: The combination of terrible red zone play calling and piss poor tackling played a bigger role in the loss than officiating, injuries, quality of prior schedule, or long layoffs. My hypothesis is that the long layoff allowed them to coach too many clever wrinkles and they tried to do too much. Quote
Hongbit Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, romad1 said: My hypothesis is that the long layoff allowed them to coach too many clever wrinkles and they tried to do too much. The team was obviously distracted by the Mazi Smith incident. They win this game by 4 TD if Jim & Warde handled it differently. Quote
romad1 Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Hongbit said: The team was obviously distracted by the Mazi Smith incident. They win this game by 4 TD if Jim & Warde handled it differently. That and sunspot activity. Quote
buddha Posted January 1, 2023 Posted January 1, 2023 to all of you young fans under 50: this is what being a michigan fan has always been like. really great regular seasons followed by a disappointing bowl loss. welcome to the 70s and 80s! 1 Quote
lordstanley Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, buddha said: to all of you young fans under 50: this is what being a michigan fan has always been like. really great regular seasons followed by a disappointing bowl loss. welcome to the 70s and 80s! And the past two years is the very top end of what being a Michigan fan in the ‘70s and ‘80s was like. Bo’s teams were rarely if ever in the national title conversation in the interval between the OSU game and the bowl games. This may have been the 2nd most successful Michigan season of the past 70 years. Typical Michigan season even between 1980 and 2007 was 3 or 4 losses. Only in 1970-1979 decade was 1 or 2 losses the norm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michigan_Wolverines_football_seasons Edited January 2, 2023 by lordstanley Quote
lordstanley Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 I’m sure there are a ton of crazy stats or oddities coming out of yesterday’s game. Here are two: - in the first 16 minutes of the 2nd half, Michigan scored 32 points - Michigan had 4 2nd half TD drives of 1:15 or less A question I have: - has Michigan ever scored 45 points and lost? Quote
buddha Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 2 hours ago, lordstanley said: I’m sure there are a ton of crazy stats or oddities coming out of yesterday’s game. Here are two: - in the first 16 minutes of the 2nd half, Michigan scored 32 points - Michigan had 4 2nd half TD drives of 1:15 or less A question I have: - has Michigan ever scored 45 points and lost? didnt they lose a game like that to northwestern when atrain fumbled? i think they lost an ot game to illinois during the richrod era. Quote
buddha Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, lordstanley said: And the past two years is the very top end of what being a Michigan fan in the ‘70s and ‘80s was like. Bo’s teams were rarely if ever in the national title conversation in the interval between the OSU game and the bowl games. This may have been the 2nd most successful Michigan season of the past 70 years. Typical Michigan season even between 1980 and 2007 was 3 or 4 losses. Only in 1970-1979 decade was 1 or 2 losses the norm https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Michigan_Wolverines_football_seasons this was probably the third best michigan team i can really remember. the early 70s teams are generally thought of as bo's best, but the 85-86 teams with harbaugh at qb were the best i can remember from bo's days. lloyd's best team was 97 obviously, but the brady teams were right there too. for some reason the 06 team just doesnt rate as highly for me considering what happened to them at the end. mo had some good squads too. the team that tied 3 games was good. desmond's hesiman year was a really good team who just met up with a juggernaut washington team in the rose bowl and got embarassed. Edited January 2, 2023 by buddha Quote
buddha Posted January 2, 2023 Posted January 2, 2023 if you go by sports reference's rating system, michigan's best teams were: 47 48 40 73 43 46 76 33 43 64 85 was ranked 11th 2022 was 25th 1997 was 28th Quote
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