Detroit Lions Offseason Thread 2023

[gehringer_2]

15 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Hmmm, Cousins threw 5 INTs before Hockenson and 9 after Hockenson. 

Does TJ have a problem with zigging when he should be zagging?

[djhutch]

On 1/22/2023 at 3:43 PM, Tigeraholic1 said:

Interesting….

 

Couple that with how TE production went up after he left, & I would not be surprised if DC, having been a TE himself, knew there was something amiss.

[1984Echoes]

11 minutes ago, djhutch said:

Couple that with how TE production went up after he left, & I would not be surprised if DC, having been a TE himself, knew there was something amiss.

Excellent insight...

[gehringer_2]

13 minutes ago, djhutch said:

Couple that with how TE production went up after he left, & I would not be surprised if DC, having been a TE himself, knew there was something amiss.

True, and the coaches on the team who drew them up would know more about whether a receiver is running his routes precisely.

Edited January 23, 2023 by gehringer_2

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Hongbit]

19 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

 

That’s awesome for JG but anything that has Joe Burrow that far down the list is seriously flawed.  

[buddha]

14 minutes ago, Hongbit said:

That’s awesome for JG but anything that has Joe Burrow that far down the list is seriously flawed.  

last year the list would be flawed because stafford is so low.

[Hongbit]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

last year the list would be flawed because stafford is so low.

There’s no comparison between Burrow and Stafford.   Despite not having as strong of an arm, Joe does almost everything better than Stafford did at a similar age.    He doesn’t need to use terrible ownership and a bad franchise as a crutch.  He goes out and makes everything around him better and wins.   He’s the new Joe Montana.  

[Motown Bombers]

Here's something to chew on. Goff is the Rodney Dangerfield of QBs. 

 

[Shinzaki]

Hutch, Sauce and Woolen are your defensive ROY finalists...Ben Johnson a finalist for assistant of the year.  DC not in the mix for Coach of the year

[Motown Bombers]

Campbell had as many wins as Pederson and Daboll and beat both by double digits. He lost by a combined 6 points to Sirianni and McDermott. 

[RandyMarsh]

I'd have Hutch behind Sauce for sure and possibly Woolen. Hutch was elite in the second half and if he played that way the whole season he'd definitely have a strong case but Sauce was elite all year and has a case to not only being DROY but DPOY in general, he was that good. 

[Hongbit]

1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said:

Here's something to chew on. Goff is the Rodney Dangerfield of QBs. 

 

Typical Florio clickbait.  He’s turned into such a fucking clown. 

[RedRamage]

5 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Here's something to chew on. Goff is the Rodney Dangerfield of QBs. 

 

I wouldn't be opposed to bring in Brady if the price was right.  I mean, it would certainly solve the issue of back up QB for us.

[Motown Bombers]

Not sure who the source is but it would make sense the Lions would have interest. 

 

[RandyMarsh]

As I said before I don't know the salary cap situation nor how he is in the locker room(Goff played with him so I'm sure he can have input there) but as an actual player he'd be my number 1 target this offseason. If it took our first or a future first Id be all for it if it doesnt cripple us salary cap wise going forward. 

[buddha]

17 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said:

As I said before I don't know the salary cap situation nor how he is in the locker room(Goff played with him so I'm sure he can have input there) but as an actual player he'd be my number 1 target this offseason. If it took our first or a future first Id be all for it if it doesnt cripple us salary cap wise going forward. 

no way im giving up that much for jalen ramsey.  i dont think you'll need to, not with that big salary coming your way.

[RandyMarsh]

1 minute ago, buddha said:

no way im giving up that much for jalen ramsey.  i dont think you'll need to, not with that big salary coming your way.

Yeah I can't comment on his salary or how that effects his value but I think in a vacuum as a player he is easily worth a 1st rounder. He's arguably the very best at a high valued position and is still relatively young having just turned 28 2 months ago. Should have atleast 3 elite seasons left in him and probably another 2 or 3 after that of good ones. 

[Motown Bombers]

Jalen Ramsey didn't exactly have a ringing endorsement of Goff before the Rams traded for him

"Jared Goff, he's average to above average. He reminds me of Jimmy Garoppolo a little bit. Year one, he wasn't good. He wasn't even good enough to earn his own starting role. Like, if you the number one pick, you expected to start now. Period. He wasn't ready to do that. He wasn't able to do that. Then when he did get in, he didn't really do that good. But in his second year, they got a new offensive coordinator. Your offensive coordinator is just your brainiac. When we played them, it felt like his offensive coordinator was drawing up perfect plays and then he was hitting the open man. For what his team ask him to do, yeah, he's good."

He also said Josh Allen was trash and was meh about Stafford.

"Matthew Stafford, I think he's straight. I don't think he the best quarterback out there. But he do what he gotta do."

Jalen Ramsey Has Something to Say (About Literally Everyone) | GQ

[djhutch]

3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said:

Jalen Ramsey didn't exactly have a ringing endorsement of Goff before the Rams traded for him

"Jared Goff, he's average to above average. He reminds me of Jimmy Garoppolo a little bit. Year one, he wasn't good. He wasn't even good enough to earn his own starting role. Like, if you the number one pick, you expected to start now. Period. He wasn't ready to do that. He wasn't able to do that. Then when he did get in, he didn't really do that good. But in his second year, they got a new offensive coordinator. Your offensive coordinator is just your brainiac. When we played them, it felt like his offensive coordinator was drawing up perfect plays and then he was hitting the open man. For what his team ask him to do, yeah, he's good."

He also said Josh Allen was trash and was meh about Stafford.

"Matthew Stafford, I think he's straight. I don't think he the best quarterback out there. But he do what he gotta do."

Jalen Ramsey Has Something to Say (About Literally Everyone) | GQ

I don't pretend to know what Jalen Ramsey is like, but I'd think long & hard about the impact he would have on the locker room before I pulled the trigger. 

[mtutiger]

6 hours ago, Motown Bombers said:

Here's something to chew on. Goff is the Rodney Dangerfield of QBs. 

 

Mere days removed from Dak laying an egg up in Santa Clara lol

[gehringer_2]

Just now, djhutch said:

I don't pretend to know what Jalen Ramsey is like, but I'd think long & hard about the impact he would have on the locker room before I pulled the trigger. 

I don't think it's necessarily a problem if a cornerback disrespects quarterbacks. It's their goal in life to make them look bad!

[Motown Bombers]

7 minutes ago, djhutch said:

I don't pretend to know what Jalen Ramsey is like, but I'd think long & hard about the impact he would have on the locker room before I pulled the trigger. 

Holmes was there when they acquired Ramsey and Ramsey said those comments while he was still in Jacksonville so I'll defer to Holmes and Campbell on if he is a kneecapper. Ramsey does like to talk though. 

[Motown Bombers]

6 minutes ago, gehringer_2 said:

I don't think it's necessarily a problem if a cornerback disrespects quarterbacks. It's their goal in life to make them look bad!

You never know when your paths are going to cross like it did with Goff and Stafford. 

[1984Echoes]

10 minutes ago, djhutch said:

I don't pretend to know what Jalen Ramsey is like, but I'd think long & hard about the impact he would have on the locker room before I pulled the trigger. 

Jamel Dean.

Nothing but money...