digitalpigsmuggler Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, NYLion said: Disagree. The Lions have nobody with Chark's size and speed combo that can catch 50/50 balls, Jamo doesn't supply that. Without Chark, the Lions have a #1 in Amon Ra but still more of a slot guy, a question mark in Jamo and a few #3/4 guys. They need Chark or at least somebody to replace his production/presence. I wouldn't overpay Chark (I'd give him the Meyers contract at max) but he'd need to be replaced with a drafted WR most likely. First round WR are expected to produce. Josh reynolds and Raymond are your 3rd/4th guys on the depth chart. Which is fine. Swift and Montgomery are good pass catchers as well. Edited March 15, 2023 by digitalpigsmuggler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motown Bombers Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Still no details on the Anzalone contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Seems Harris is here to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Gets you somebody that loves you like the Lions love Harris and apparently Okwara. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 The Lions renegoiated and didn't restructure so it seems Harris took a pay cut to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Gets you somebody that loves you like the Lions love Harris and apparently Okwara. If I’m Okwara my stuff is probably in boxes. Drafting Wilson or Anderson almost certainly makes him the odd man out, and they may not even wait until the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, RedRamage said: Has anyone really said they don't like it? I saw a lot of people being surprised and some being disappointed that J-Will won't be coming back, but I don't think anyone said they hated it. espn gave it a C-. walterfootball gave it an F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I think a lot of us here have strong opinions that Montgomery will be better - possibly a lot better - behind a substantially better offensive line. 201 carries for 801 yards and 5 TDs isn't that amazing when compared to Jamaal's 262 carries for 1066 yards and 17 TDs... If Montgomery comes here and puts up 801 yards and 5 TDs in Jamaal's role, I think that will be disappointing and those grades will be appropriate. But if he can gain an extra yard or two per carry behind this offensive line, like the missed tackle rates suggest is possible, it's a different story completely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRamage Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, buddha said: espn gave it a C-. walterfootball gave it an F. Gotcha... I thought you were talking more about people here on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I think one of the pieces that led the Lions to Montgomery too is his durability. He's only missed 6 games in four seasons, only one game last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jason_R Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I think a lot of us here have strong opinions that Montgomery will be better - possibly a lot better - behind a substantially better offensive line. 201 carries for 801 yards and 5 TDs isn't that amazing when compared to Jamaal's 262 carries for 1066 yards and 17 TDs... If Montgomery comes here and puts up 801 yards and 5 TDs in Jamaal's role, I think that will be disappointing and those grades will be appropriate. But if he can gain an extra yard or two per carry behind this offensive line, like the missed tackle rates suggest is possible, it's a different story completely. Swift was at the top of the league with 3.8 yards before contact per rushing attempt. Craig Reynolds had 3.0 ybc/carry. Jamaal had 2.5 (reflecting his short yardage usage). Montgomery had just 2.1. Montgomery had 1.9 yards after contact. Jamaal had 1.6, Reynolds 1.5, Swift 1.7. With the extra yard or so before contact that this OL will provide him, Montgomery should have a nice season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Seems a little high but whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 the lions like to take care of their own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Will Harris wasn't that bad last year and he gives you flexibility. I'm not surprised by the total amount of the contract but rather that it is all guaranteed. I figured like half that amount would be guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Except Jamaal. I don’t know why, but I have a picture in my head of Jamaal standing on one side of the bargaining table doing his signature hip thrusts and saying, “Come on Mr. Brad, let’s get it done,” and Holmes looking unimpressed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motor City Sonics Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Will Harris wasn't that bad last year and he gives you flexibility. I'm not surprised by the total amount of the contract but rather that it is all guaranteed. I figured like half that amount would be guaranteed. Harris is a depth/rotational guy. Nothing wrong with keeping him around. Amari's probably gone. That was a quick downfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 After the season Amani had in 2021, no one would have blamed Holmes had he signed him to an extension. This reminds me, has Holmes signed anyone to an extension before their final season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 An airing of grievances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 He is the Trump of Football...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MichiganCardinal Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I hate myself for turning this on. He's so dramatic, self-absorbed, and annoying. He just called himself the best player in Packers history. Sounds like the Packers want to use everything that's gone down against the Jets. If Rodgers had decided to play for the Jets two weeks ago, this deal is probably done. Now they've gone and signed Lazard, watched all the other QBs sign elsewhere, and clearly have all their chips in one basket. Two weeks ago, everything was stacked against the Packers, and they needed to move Rodgers. Now, both sides need to get this done. Rodgers cost his future team all their leverage by being a drama queen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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