Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 They didn't need to renegotiate Vaitai's contract when they did. They could have done it after the draft, after June 1st or during training camp. They had plenty of cap to get them through so it is curious why they cleared it now. 1 Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 I think signing Sudfeld increases the chances we draft a QB at some point in the draft. Quote
buddha Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, NYLion said: I guess it depends on how one sees the value difference between Simmons and #18. If we're purely using the Buckner trade as a baseline then Simmons is probably worth more than #18 so maybe a more minor return than the draft point charts would indicate to drop from 6 to 11. So without looking at the charts currently, I would assume that it'll normally take roughly a 2nd to move up from 11 to 6 so I'd say that your 2nd trade of Simmons+#11+#72 for #6+#18 seems about right and would be a no brainer for me. how? simmons = 18. so youre giving up 6 for 11 and a third? that really shortchanges detroit. you would need 11 and their second round pick or a future 1 with detroit throwing in a late 3rd. 1 Quote
buddha Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I think signing Sudfeld increases the chances we draft a QB at some point in the draft. i dream of them drafting anthony richardson and jalen carter, just to watch the reactions here. lol. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, buddha said: i dream of them drafting anthony richardson and jalen carter, just to watch the reactions here. lol. I can't wait for the reactions when Richardson has Charlie Batch level accuracy and Carter ends up the 2nd coming of Nick Fairley. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 I know there was talk the longer he went unsigned the more likely it was he would return to Detroit but I never thought that was the case. If there was mutual interest, they would have gotten the deal done a while ago. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 We will always have this moment: 1 1 Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 I thought last year was a prove it contract for Chark? Another one year deal surprises me. Quote
Jason_R Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tigeraholic1 said: I thought last year was a prove it contract for Chark? Another one year deal surprises me. He didn’t prove it. 1 Quote
Jason_R Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said: I think signing Sudfeld increases the chances we draft a QB at some point in the draft. I agree with this. I hope it is not early. Especially since we now need an X receiver, either in the draft or by trading for one. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Hopkins is available and the Lions cleared cap space.... Quote
Tigeraholic1 Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jason_R said: He didn’t prove it. BH probably offered an incentive laden contract and Panthers offered more guaranteed cash. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted March 24, 2023 Author Posted March 24, 2023 I think with Chark gone this increases the chances that they take a guy like Quetin Johnston from TCU in the first round. Johnston is the kind of tall, big-bodied, contested catch receiver that they need in lieu of losing Chark. Quote
NYLion Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 2 hours ago, buddha said: how? simmons = 18. so youre giving up 6 for 11 and a third? that really shortchanges detroit. you would need 11 and their second round pick or a future 1 with detroit throwing in a late 3rd. Yes because I'm speculating that Simmons would be worth more than #18 straight up. Quote
MichiganCardinal Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 17 minutes ago, Jason_R said: I agree with this. I hope it is not early. Especially since we now need an X receiver, either in the draft or by trading for one. The only QB I would feel very comfortable drafting in the high 1st is Stroud. If he slips to #3, I’m okay with trading up and taking him. He’s a better, younger, and more athletic version of Goff and could be a plug-and-play upgrade in 2024. It wouldn’t make much sense for 2023 though because you would figure he would come in as the QB2, not below Sudfeld. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Arizona is the team with a QB whose going to miss a year with a knee injury and is coming off a sub par season and it's the team that has a healthy QB coming off a Pro Bowl year who should trade up and draft a QB. Quote
buddha Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 the draft is about the next 5 years, not just next year. i dont know if they should take a qb at 6. i wouldnt. but the idea that they shouldnt take one because they have goff is short sighted, imo. Quote
Jason_R Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Plus Stroud might actually turn out to be as good as the QB we already have, so YOLO! Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 That logic should apply to Arizona. Their QB just blew out his knee. They also need a backup now way more than the Lions. Going forward Murray is probably going to be more of a pocket passer so now you have a homunculus trying to be a pocket passer. Quote
Motown Bombers Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 Just now, Jason_R said: Plus Stroud might actually turn out to be as good as the QB we already have, so YOLO! But for three years we'll have a QB on a rookie contract! Quote
Jason_R Posted March 24, 2023 Posted March 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: But for three years we'll have a QB on a rookie contract! Should we keep Goff as a backup just in case? Quote
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