Detroit Lions Offseason Thread 2023

[RandyMarsh]

A year ago some thought Hurts may be the piece holding the Eagles back now he is the highest paid player in the history of the sport. Amazing turn of events for him!

[Motown Bombers]

1 hour ago, NYLion said:

Some QB extensions are no brainers, Hurts qualifies. If Goff leads the Lions to a Super Bowl with MVP level performance then his extension will be a no brainer.

I don't think Hurts is a no brainer. He's had one year of elite play. He's also a QB who relies on his legs and they are more injury prone (Hurts has already missed time due to injury) and age quicker. I would have felt better about Goff after 2018 than I do about Hurts but the Eagles really had no choice. I do think there is a bit of risk, more so than someone like Burrow or Herbert. 

[MichiganCardinal]

Watch all the Levi uncertainty have been a smoke screen and he’s going to go out and play like a 2nd round pick this year.

 

[buddha]

dont bet on it.

[KL2]

12 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said:

Watch all the Levi uncertainty have been a smoke screen and he’s going to go out and play like a 2nd round pick this year.

 

Did he get hurt on his way in?

[Motown Bombers]

[Motown Bombers]

For one year in his career, Stafford want on a rebuilding team. 

 

[Motown Bombers]

Thankfully Holmes passed on Robinson. 

 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

Letting Golladay walk and not signing Robinson are two great moves by Brad Holmes.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Motown Bombers]

Let's not forget the Lions drafted Kerby Joseph with the comp pick they received from letting Golladay walk. 

[RedRamage]

On 4/17/2023 at 11:07 AM, Motown Bombers said:

Don't they know you can only win with a QB on a rookie contract?

 

Absolutely no one has said that.

[Motown Bombers]

Fantastic, guess no one will be suggesting to draft a QB to save on cap space anymore. 

[RandyMarsh]

A caller brought up an interesting point about Goff and his extension, we all assume that if we offer him up one now he will take it but what if he is the one that wants to wait?

I mean he's got another couple years on his current deal and qb prices are only going to go up, couple that with us having a great supporting cast, coaching and high expectations and there is a relatively good chance he repeats or even tops his performance from last year on top of leading us to hopefully a deep playoff run. 

If that were to happen he could probably write himself a blank check. 

[buddha]

as equally important as potentially upgrading on goff is how theyre going to replace ben johnson.

[RandyMarsh]

Im not worried about Johnson,  I mean don't get me wrong I love him and think he is valuable but if you fancy yourself as a good organization you're going to lose coordinators and generally those teams don't miss a beat after they lose them. 

[Motown Bombers]

Not worried about Ben Johnson. Goff has this uncanny ability to always end up on the teams with the best coaching. It's like that episode of Seinfeld where Jerry always ends up even. 

[MichiganCardinal]

 

[Jimbo]

I like the fact that they haven't talked extension yet.  For multiple reasons.  First is for this draft and teams not knowing if they will pick a QB in this draft.  Second is if they wait till after or during this season and see how he plays.  If we win a playoff game or even better then that means he is worth extending.  This isn't his last contract year.  I also don't think they will have to overpay for him regardless of his situation because I don't think another team is going to be paying Goff like Hurts.  I think teams know that he is a QB that will play great with the RIGHT situation.  He is not the QB that is going to win you games like a Hurts or Mahomes does.  Goff also isn't desperate to get another huge contract since he has already had a big contract.  That takes away the desperation like Jackson is going through.  Lions are in a good situation and really so is Goff. 

[KL2]

2 hours ago, RandyMarsh said:

A caller brought up an interesting point about Goff and his extension, we all assume that if we offer him up one now he will take it but what if he is the one that wants to wait?

I mean he's got another couple years on his current deal and qb prices are only going to go up, couple that with us having a great supporting cast, coaching and high expectations and there is a relatively good chance he repeats or even tops his performance from last year on top of leading us to hopefully a deep playoff run. 

If that were to happen he could probably write himself a blank check. 

It's a chance. But its risk reward. I mean he could wait but really how much mroe is he gonna get guarenteed?

Better just to take your $200 million and call it a day instead of risking injury/poor preformance for an extra $20 million. 

[MichiganCardinal]

RE Ben Johnson, I don't doubt that he is a very good OC, but I do wonder how much of the offensive efficiency and productivity was thanks to MCDC.

[Motown Bombers]

I do think Goff would sign an extension if it were a fair offer unless he really wanted to leave Detroit. He may want to go back to California. The 49ers are always a fit. The Rams would love to unload Stafford's contract in quite a twist of irony. 

[buddha]

56 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said:

RE Ben Johnson, I don't doubt that he is a very good OC, but I do wonder how much of the offensive efficiency and productivity was thanks to MCDC.

dan campbell?  he was the head coach when lynn was here too.  and they (and goff) sucked.

[Motown Bombers]

2 minutes ago, buddha said:

dan campbell?  he was the head coach when lynn was here too.  and they (and goff) sucked.

Yeah and Dan Campbell fired Lynn and took over play calling and the offense immediately got better. 

[NYLion]

1 hour ago, MichiganCardinal said:

RE Ben Johnson, I don't doubt that he is a very good OC, but I do wonder how much of the offensive efficiency and productivity was thanks to MCDC.

Campbell runs this thing. I like Johnson too but I think the impact some think will happen when losing him is grossly overstated.