Detroit Lions Offseason Thread 2023

[buddha]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:32 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

Quentin Johnston come on down at #18.

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for a guy who didnt like ebron because of his hands, you want to take a guy who also has suspect hands at 18?

they did pretty well without jamo last year.  its a kick in the nuts because of how he hopefully would have made them better, but you work through it.  hope the nfl gives them some easier games at home to start the season.

[CMRivdogs]

Moore and Cephus also involved in the gambling thing and have been released. 

[buddha]

for everyone who DOESNT want to take carter or others with "character concerns", quintez ceephus should be your exhibit A.  

[Motown Bombers]

When I first read it, I thought Williams was out indefinitely but it's 6 games. They can weather it. 

[RandyMarsh]

I just liked the threat of Jamo, even if he didn't put up big numbers I thought he would still help the offense greatly because of his speed. 

Oh well atleast its only 6 games, hopefully theyll be fine. 

[RatkoVarda]

WTF. never under-estimate people's stupidity. Cephus and Moore and Toney probably just ended their NFL careers.

[Motown Bombers]

After what happened to Calvin Ridley, why would you get caught up in this? 

[Motown Bombers]

 

[Stanley70]

The Alabama WR curse lives on.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:34 PM, buddha said:

for a guy who didnt like ebron because of his hands, you want to take a guy who also has suspect hands at 18?

they did pretty well without jamo last year.  its a kick in the nuts because of how he hopefully would have made them better, but you work through it.  hope the nfl gives them some easier games at home to start the season.

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It's a significant concern for sure. In the case of Ebron though there was also concerns regarding his maturity and ability to run routes, which I don't believe is there for Johnston. But yes, I am concerned with his 11% college drop rate. 

[RandyMarsh]

I dont see why it should make a diff where you gamble at but rules are rules and if he knew that and still did it then I have to question his intelligence.

[buddha]

betting on non-nfl games at the facility?  are they allowed to bet on anything at all?  was it because it was AT the facility?

if its just because they were at the facility, it seems kind of dumb...

[buddha]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:42 PM, RandyMarsh said:

I dont see why it should make a diff where you gamble at but rules are rules and if he knew that and still did it then I have to question his intelligence.

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at the very least, it shows a lot of immaturity.

[Motown Bombers]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:42 PM, buddha said:

betting on non-nfl games at the facility?  are they allowed to bet on anything at all?  was it because it was AT the facility?

if its just because they were at the facility, it seems kind of dumb...

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I believe with Williams it was because he was at the facility. As I understand it, betting on NFL games is banned so that's why Cephus and Moore got idefinite. Williams got 6 games because he was betting on non NFL games which is allowed but not on NFL or team property. 

[buddha]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:41 PM, Mr.TaterSalad said:

It's a significant concern for sure. In the case of Ebron though there was also concerns regarding his maturity and ability to run routes, which I don't believe is there for Johnston. But yes, I am concerned with his 11% college drop rate. 

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i dont know if there is an "x" receiver you take high in this draft.

i still think that if theyre going to take any receiver, JSN is the guy to take.  osu qbs may suck but osu receivers are the real deal.  JSN will be too.

you might have to stay ahead of the bears to do it.

[Mr.TaterSalad]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:45 PM, buddha said:

i dont know if there is an "x" receiver you take high in this draft.

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Then do you trade for Hopkins or someone else or just ride the wave of 6 games with who you got and maybe a 3rd or later round pick?

[CMRivdogs]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:42 PM, buddha said:

betting on non-nfl games at the facility?  are they allowed to bet on anything at all?  was it because it was AT the facility?

if its just because they were at the facility, it seems kind of dumb...

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Gambling rules clearly stated here.

https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018 Policies/2018 Gambling Policy - FINAL.pdf

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Gambling in the Workplace: NFL Personnel shall not engage in any form of gambling while in any Club or League setting including, without limitation, locker rooms, practice or office facilities, team buses, trains, flights, or hotels, or while traveling on Club or League business. For clarity, playing cards or other casino-type games is permitted as long as nothing of value is wagered.
 

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[Motown Bombers]

Can Williams participate in training camp? 

[MichiganCardinal]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:45 PM, Motown Bombers said:

I believe with Williams it was because he was at the facility. As I understand it, betting on NFL games is banned so that's why Cephus and Moore got idefinite. Williams got 6 games because he was betting on non NFL games which is allowed but not on NFL or team property. 

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Six games seems a bit much for a first-time offense on something that would be legal if done a couple hundred yards from wherever he was sitting.

[buddha]

im sure theyve known about this for a while.  all the smoke about jamo and character were probably about this.

[buddha]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:49 PM, Motown Bombers said:

Can Williams participate in training camp? 

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according to pod he can participate in training camp and preseason games.

[Motown Bombers]

 

[buddha]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:49 PM, MichiganCardinal said:

Six games seems a bit much for a first-time offense on something that would be legal if done a couple hundred yards from wherever he was sitting.

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yup.  seems dumb. 

[Mr.TaterSalad]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:50 PM, buddha said:

according to pod he can participate in training camp and preseason games.

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That's good to know that at least he won't be missing practice reps in addition to game time.

[KL2]

  On 4/21/2023 at 3:49 PM, MichiganCardinal said:

Six games seems a bit much for a first-time offense on something that would be legal if done a couple hundred yards from wherever he was sitting.

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That's true of any workplace through. There are certain rules such as don't drink on the job. Off site ok, work hours not so much.