KL2 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, TP_Fan said: This is the absolute best strategy. If you can move down, stay in the top 12 or so. And then pick up a 2nd rd pick this year and an additional 1st next year then you do it. That almost never works out better for the team trading down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, KL2 said: That almost never works out better for the team trading down Most years I’d agree with you. This is the exception. The one year it makes really good sense to move down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, TP_Fan said: Most years I’d agree with you. This is the exception. The one year it makes really good sense to move down. which is why no one else will move up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 21 hours ago, buddha said: which is why no one else will move up. Agreed, it seems unlikely someone would offer a package worth moving down for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Pretty much expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Aside from somebody falling in love with one of the QBs and trading up the best scenario for the Lions is probably everything checking out with Thibs and all these suppose character or work ethic concerns were all just overblown or fabricated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 I've seen a couple new mocks now have the Seahawks trading up with the Giants at 5 to grab Willis with the offer of number 9, a 2nd and either a 3rd or 4th. Would you take that if they offered that to us or would you want atleast a future 1st to fall back that far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: I've seen a couple new mocks now have the Seahawks trading up with the Giants at 5 to grab Willis with the offer of number 9, a 2nd and either a 3rd or 4th. Would you take that if they offered that to us or would you want atleast a future 1st to fall back that far? Seattle may be willing to part with Denver's 1st next year. It would probably a late 20's. I would maybe take that in lieu of the 2nd and have 3 1sts next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Brad Holmes seems the master of mining for late round Wide Receivers and so I hope the Lions take a serious look at Wan'Dale Robinson, WR out of Kentucky. WHO? His RAS is nothing special outside of his fantastic speed, but his highlight tapes are great, the guy is shifty and elusive as hell and he catches everything thrown his way. He'd be another St. Brown type of WR, but if we can get a guy like him at the end of the 3rd or 4th I'd consider it. Edited April 2, 2022 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 No thank you. Not interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5'8 180? no thanks. amon ra is small and he's 6 feet and 200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I don’t think Robinson makes it out of the second round. I would take him with the 2nd pick of the 3rd round if we haven’t yet taken a WR. He’s got a WR1 ceiling if his speed can translate to separation at the NFL level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: I don’t think Robinson makes it out of the second round. I would take him with the 2nd pick of the 3rd round if we haven’t yet taken a WR. He’s got a WR1 ceiling if his speed can translate to separation at the NFL level. WR1? at 5' 8" 180 and 4.44 speed? This is sarcasm, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 teams are gonna draft a lot of tiny receivers looking for the next tyreke hill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Deeboo Samuel is a #1 guy and that's who Robinson compares closest too imo. I think Robinson is too small and not quite polished or well rounded enough overall to be a #1, but he could be a firecracker of a #2 (or #3 on a loaded roster) guy. Edited April 3, 2022 by Mr.TaterSalad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 deebo is 4 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_R Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Even Tyreek Hill is bigger, while also being faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagnam Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 OE% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 The Lions literally have Robinson on the roster now. His name is Kalif Raymond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 16 hours ago, 1984Echoes said: WR1? at 5' 8" 180 and 4.44 speed? This is sarcasm, right? As others already mentioned, I’ve seen Tyreek Hill comparisons for Robinson. The height will scare people off, but a guy like Hill could be 5’6” with the separation he creates. And once you have the ball in his hands, height doesn’t matter. His game is not “just” speed, it’s agility and get-off that allows him to nearly instantly have a step and a half on his corner, and then make multiple defenders miss. You don’t put up numbers like Robinson did at Kentucky without being good. He was the only NFL caliber offensive weapon on that roster and was still getting open against SEC defenses. I think he is similar to Raymond in that he would quickly put Raymond out of a job, but the comparisons stop there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 23 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: As others already mentioned, I’ve seen Tyreek Hill comparisons for Robinson. The height will scare people off, but a guy like Hill could be 5’6” with the separation he creates. And once you have the ball in his hands, height doesn’t matter. His game is not “just” speed, it’s agility and get-off that allows him to nearly instantly have a step and a half on his corner, and then make multiple defenders miss. You don’t put up numbers like Robinson did at Kentucky without being good. He was the only NFL caliber offensive weapon on that roster and was still getting open against SEC defenses. I think he is similar to Raymond in that he would quickly put Raymond out of a job, but the comparisons stop there. He was a YAC monster at Kentucky. In the right offensive system I think he could be that same type of player. A Wide Receiver version of a Darren Sproles or a smaller Deebo Samuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Deebo Samuel is 3 inches taller. Tyreek Hill is 2 inches taller. He's the exact size as Kalif Raymond but slower. We really discussing drafting a 5'8 receiver in the 3rd or 4th round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Not necessarily advocating for Robinson but I think it's fair to point out for a receiver like him height is really meaningless. I mean it's not like you are throwing jump or 50/50 balls to them. Their whole skillset is getting open away from defenders where size doesn't matter and then creating damage in the open field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 its a question of how you get off the line against nfl cornerbacks who are bigger, stronger, and faster than college ones. it seems like we fall in love with little college wrs every year. guys who dominated in college but never pan out in the pros because they're not strong enough to compete with big nfl players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 The Lions need big receivers to play on the outside, not a homunculus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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