buddha Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Didn't they also get a 6th rounder back from Denver in the Benson trade? 2023 6th rounder Quote
Cruzer1 Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 5 hours ago, buddha said: the way holmes has been dealing later round picks, maybe he doesnt consider this class all that great either? Or he is anticipating the comp picks will replace the picks he traded. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 I know you can find guys in later rounds and the more picks you have the better chance you have of doing that with that said Im not a fan of trading down unless we are getting some extra top 100ish picks. I don't want to sacrifice the better early pick for more 5th or 6th rounders. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Cruzer1 said: Or he is anticipating the comp picks will replace the picks he traded. Or he's just trying to field an NFL team since this team is holier than the pope... I mean, good luck with that Holmes... Quote
TP_Fan Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 Lions need to find a way to get Malik Willis. This is a no brainer. It’s QB time. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 If the Lions want Willis or any other QB you'd think they would have the pick of the lot. I think the only teams that may end up picking higher than them are the Jets and Jags, neither of which is in the market for qb. I suppose a team could jump ahead of us and trade with them but I think that is a small chance. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 15 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: ... I suppose a team could jump ahead of us and trade with them but I think that is a small chance. That's going to be hard to do when we have the #1 pick in next year's draft. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 6, 2021 Posted October 6, 2021 In other words... a very small chance. Quote
buddha Posted October 7, 2021 Posted October 7, 2021 3 hours ago, RandyMarsh said: If the Lions want Willis or any other QB you'd think they would have the pick of the lot. I think the only teams that may end up picking higher than them are the Jets and Jags, neither of which is in the market for qb. I suppose a team could jump ahead of us and trade with them but I think that is a small chance. let's see willis perform against a top college team before we anoint him the next lamar jackson. 1 Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 7, 2021 Posted October 7, 2021 3 minutes ago, buddha said: let's see willis perform against a top college team before we anoint him the next lamar jackson. Agreed Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 7, 2021 Author Posted October 7, 2021 38 minutes ago, buddha said: let's see willis perform against a top college team before we anoint him the next lamar jackson. If someone felt comfortable taking Lance (I did) then drafting Willis is little different because the talent level appears to be similar. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 7, 2021 Posted October 7, 2021 Liberty has Ole Miss November 6th, I'm sure all the NFL scouts will be glued into that one. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted October 7, 2021 Posted October 7, 2021 8 hours ago, buddha said: let's see willis perform against a top college team before we anoint him the next lamar jackson. Lamar might be light for him. Willis has a freaking hose. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 7, 2021 Author Posted October 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Cruzer1 said: Lamar might be light for him. Willis has a freaking hose. I think early indications are from reports I've read that Willis has a stronger arm than Jackson. I read one former Auburn Coach, Pat Dye, who compared him in an ESPN Radio interview to DeShaun Watson. I can't really say what Willis is or what he will be, but as of now, I'd consider him someone worth our #1 overall pick. Quote
Mr.TaterSalad Posted October 7, 2021 Author Posted October 7, 2021 Malik Willis Scouting Reports . . . The Draft Network: What Malik Willis Needs to Improve The Draft Network: Malik Willis Taking the Next Step Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 7, 2021 Posted October 7, 2021 I'm not sold on guys like Lamar Jackson being long term franchise QBs. Once their legs go, they start to lose value. 1 Quote
TP_Fan Posted October 7, 2021 Posted October 7, 2021 Comparing Willis to Lamar is lazy. I know a lot of pundits are doing it. Willis is composed on the pocket and hits his targets. There really isn’t a comparison for him. He is worth watching the rest of the year. I’ve watched two liberty games so far, he is just so much better than the other players on the field. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 7, 2021 Posted October 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, TP_Fan said: Comparing Willis to Lamar is lazy. I know a lot of pundits are doing it. Willis is composed on the pocket and hits his targets. There really isn’t a comparison for him. He is worth watching the rest of the year. I’ve watched two liberty games so far, he is just so much better than the other players on the field. Lamar isn't bad. Not a bad QB to build around but I'm with those that think running QB's are going to get beat up faster and lose effectiveness faster. Not what I really want to build around... Comparisons to Deshaun Watson I like a whole lot more, if that's who Malik can compare to. Much bigger arm, much less running. Watson/ Rodgers/ Steve Walsh... prefer those types of running QB's as a personal preference... Quote
sagnam Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Spencer Rattler was benched today as Texas is up big on Oklahoma. Quote
RandyMarsh Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) He isn't perfect by any means and I certainly wouldn't take him with our first pick but Desmond Ridder really intrigues me. He misses some throws some time but he is athletic as hell and has a hose for an arm. I wouldn't be opposed to taking him in the 2nd round if he is still there. Prescott, Cousins, Wilson, Derek Carr, Jalen Hurts and Jimmy G are examples of QBs taken outside the 1st in the past 10 years that have turned out solid and in the case of Wilson elite so its not impossible for a guy drafted there to succeed. Edited October 9, 2021 by RandyMarsh Quote
sagnam Posted October 9, 2021 Posted October 9, 2021 Willis has his first 3 picks of the year today playing Middle Tennessee State. Quote
1984Echoes Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 I think it was mentioned in the game thread today... Don't draft a receiver in 2022, just defense and a QB if the right one is available. I beg to differ. If we decide to draft a QB in 2022, we are also drafting at least 1, maybe 2 WR's. And either a 2nd/3rd round type Guard or another TE. If we are NOT drafting a QB in 2022, then 1 WR and the rest defense. IMO. (My 2 cents...) Quote
Motown Bombers Posted October 10, 2021 Posted October 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, 1984Echoes said: I think it was mentioned in the game thread today... Don't draft a receiver in 2022, just defense and a QB if the right one is available. I beg to differ. If we decide to draft a QB in 2022, we are also drafting at least 1, maybe 2 WR's. And either a 2nd/3rd round type Guard or another TE. If we are NOT drafting a QB in 2022, then 1 WR and the rest defense. IMO. (My 2 cents...) I draft defense with the Lions pick and WR with the Rams pick. Doesn't really matter the position on defense. Quote
Cruzer1 Posted October 13, 2021 Posted October 13, 2021 Draft the best players. Going to need a lot of them everywhere. Quote
TP_Fan Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 Willis showing his legs. The receivers on liberty are laughable. Hasn’t had a great throwing game. But does have 163 yards rushing on 20 carries with two TDs. Just ran for 53 to tie the game at 28. Should get another possession. Quote
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