Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 We do need a big bodied, outside guy more than a guy like Robinson. Which is why I hope our pick at #32 or #34 addresses that need. But if Robinson is there in the late 3rd with our comp pick, I'd consider using it on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1984Echoes Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 If he's still there in the 6th round, I may, or may not, be interested... But not before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) You can never have too many weapons in the NFL so if they could get Robinson for their 4th I wouldn't be against it assuming they got the outside receiver with 32 or 34. Two WR in 4 rounds may seem excessive given all the holes on the team but the NFL nowadays is built on offense and playmakers so like I said you can never have too many weapons in the NFL. I should've prefaced it with I personally don't know how he is going to fair in the NFL cause I haven't watched him much at all since until now he wasn't on my radar cause like others I was looking at bigger receivers but if Holmes and Co. were to draft him they obviously would be believers which in turn would make me one. Edited April 4, 2022 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) What it need to take to go back to 8 so Carolina get ahead of Atlanta? I'm guessing multiple 1sts are out of the questions but maybe some 2nds. Edited April 4, 2022 by Motown Bombers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RandyMarsh Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Motown Bombers said: Damn I love that trade for the Eagles. Let's cross out the 19th and 18th pick for simplicity sake. They essentially traded the 16th for a likely higher 1st next year, a 3rd and a 2nd. Even though the 2nd is 2 years away its still a big asset. Also with 3 1sts this draft they could afford to give up one now for one in the future this way they don't put all their eggs in one basket in this draft. They will now be in prime position to move up and take a qb next year if/ when Hurts fails. Edited April 4, 2022 by RandyMarsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 whoa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) lions better trade out of #2 and get at least one #1 picm next year or just draft willis this year, because too many teams are either gonna need a qb and be able to draft one high next year because they will be worse than detroit this year (carolina, atlanta) or will have more ammo than detroit to trade up and get one if they want to (houston, philly). Edited April 4, 2022 by buddha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Some folks are speculating that NO is positioning themselves to try to move up and grab a qb this year. Would you take their 2 firsts and their 2nd(49 overall) for number 2? Birkett says that according to the ole chart that is a little light but if you don't really love anybody at 2 and want to pick up extra capital perhaps you would be willing to "lose" the trade according to what you normally expect to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 19 minutes ago, RandyMarsh said: Some folks are speculating that NO is positioning themselves to try to move up and grab a qb this year. Would you take their 2 firsts and their 2nd(49 overall) for number 2? Birkett says that according to the ole chart that is a little light but if you don't really love anybody at 2 and want to pick up extra capital perhaps you would be willing to "lose" the trade according to what you normally expect to get. nope. need a #1 for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I'm still on the Goff train. He's good enough to win. Kansas City went 4 seasons with Smith before they drafted Mahomes. There's no need to rush into a QB this year or next. The only issue is when Goff comes up for an extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TP_Fan Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 With what happened today Holmes should be able to move down and pick up a 2nd this year and a 1st next year, at a minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 With how many good qbs have been demanding trades of late who's to say we have to get our next qb in this or next years draft? If Holmes builds up a good enough roster around us, in 1 or. 2 years if one of those guys comes available maybe we could be the ones that they ask to be traded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I don't get New Orleans' angle if they're done with what they did today. The consensus is that the draft class this year is weaker than usual, so why do you trade away future assets for mid-first talent? Particularly when this far out it's difficult to say exactly who will be there? And when you are lacking a franchise QB and are clearly not in "win-now" mode. I think the only way this really makes sense for them is if it is a set-up for another move to go up and get one of Willis or Pickett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 38 minutes ago, MichiganCardinal said: I don't get New Orleans' angle if they're done with what they did today. The consensus is that the draft class this year is weaker than usual, so why do you trade away future assets for mid-first talent? Particularly when this far out it's difficult to say exactly who will be there? And when you are lacking a franchise QB and are clearly not in "win-now" mode. I think the only way this really makes sense for them is if it is a set-up for another move to go up and get one of Willis or Pickett. new orleans might think this draft class is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 I thought at first that the Saints were trying to trade up for Willis, but I don't know that two picks will be enough to get into the Top 5 if that's what's needed to draft Willis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 hours ago, buddha said: new orleans might think this draft class is good. Maybe. Even so I think this is something I wouldn’t want to pull the trigger on until Draft Night. See how the board starts to fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 McShay has us now taking Walker, Ridder and Dax Hill with our first 3 picks. I'm starting to like Walker and would be perfectly fine with him, I'd be content with Hill but would rather have Lewis Cine who he mocked a couple picks later but again I don't understand the QB pick at 32. I don't know if it's just lazy mocking, guys see that we likely don't have a long term QB so they just lazily throw a flawed one at us at 32 or if they actually are getting intel that the Lions are serious about taking one there, hopefully for our case it's the former. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.TaterSalad Posted April 5, 2022 Author Share Posted April 5, 2022 I find it hard top believe that the organization views and values Ridder as the better QB than Willis. The Bears valued Trubisky more than Watson and Mahomes, so anything is possible. I just don't see why you'd take a less athletic, but equally flawed QB in Ridder over Willis. If the Lions did what McShay is proposing I'd be very disappointed as I don't want any of the QBs, but certainly don't want Ridder over Willis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motown Bombers Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Mr.TaterSalad said: I find it hard top believe that the organization views and values Ridder as the better QB than Willis. The Bears valued Trubisky more than Watson and Mahomes, so anything is possible. I just don't see why you'd take a less athletic, but equally flawed QB in Ridder over Willis. If the Lions did what McShay is proposing I'd be very disappointed as I don't want any of the QBs, but certainly don't want Ridder over Willis. To be fair, a lot of draft experts valued Trubisky over Watson and Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Motown Bombers said: To be fair, a lot of draft experts valued Trubisky over Watson and Mahomes. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mitchell-trubisky/32005452-5521-5336-8519-c8cb45ea9b74 "pro bowl talent" comp: matt stafford 7.0 grade https://www.nfl.com/prospects/deshaun-watson/32005741-5433-8355-e029-e49022cf4b81 6.8 grade. comp: marcus mariota https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71 6.3 grade! comp: jay cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddha Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 nobody. knows. nothin'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMarsh Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 Not counting trade downs and just pitching things that could realistically happen... atleast if the pundits rankings are similar to teams, I think my option A is going with 3 GA guys with our first 3 picks. Walker, Cine and Pickens. Pickens is coming off an injury but I think he is the perfect WR that we are looking for. Big, physical, plays on the outside and has some speed considering his size with his 40 reportedly being in the 4.45 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KL2 Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 15 hours ago, MichiganCardinal said: Maybe. Even so I think this is something I wouldn’t want to pull the trigger on until Draft Night. See how the board starts to fall. Cap issues too are coming due. They have to get younger and cheaper now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganCardinal Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 47 minutes ago, KL2 said: Cap issues too are coming due. They have to get younger and cheaper now I’m becoming more and more convinced that the NFL salary cap is a figment of our collective imagination used only as a talking point to help move the off-season along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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